Hi:
What are the parents of the above Amaryllis, and what are the parents of the pale cream one that you show on another email,or are these all bee pollinated??? Thanks
Jack

I would be interested in the parentage of this feathered creamycreamy colored hybrid, too

This is exactly the one hippeastrum Arif is teasing me all the time with and he knows that

Hello
Once upon a time a fellow breeder obliged me two bulbs about 1 1/2inch dia.He said it was a yellow dwarf.Inspite of my lawish care the bulbs did not enlarge.one of them bloomed with two medium size flowers which were pale yellow.Polination with an un named red produced seeds.The progeny Produced interesting varietes. The bulbs did not bloom again and kept getting smaller and were destroyed on advice of teacher Hans-Werner (suspected cucomber virus).
The progeny includes the left lower flower in the abow picture and the following.

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No teasing teacher
ARIF

These two got left out. Might as well include them.

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ARIF

From the land of woods, and at present no snow and summer potatoes. Roses blooming everywhere, the question still resounds,
What are the parents of the pale creamy one????
The pale pictures do not look akin to the one I observed
bethree.
Or Arif, is it your wish to be the only person in this
universe with this color and form? and you know that the chances
of getting an offspring the same color could be hard to
come by....:>)))) Jack

The bulbs did not bloom again and kept getting smaller and were destroyed

Hello Arif:

Concentrate your efforts now on making the best of what you actually have - the teacher *ggg* tells you.

Please try to evaluate the progeny of
creamy veined self pollinated
creamy veined x pink slightly veined and
pink slightly veined self pollinated.

As regards to "weak amaryllis parents" I face some similar experience when I regard the completely unsatisfactory growth behaviour of Pink Floyd and compare this with the amazing continuous leaf formation of the progeny obtained from the crossbreedings
Pink Floyd x H.papilio and vice versa

The growing properties of the progeny may prove to be completely different as compared to that of the parents. As both parents - that is to say this pink trumpet and this burgundy veined butterfly - are strong producers of offsets, I simply WONDER why in my box with 18 seedlings, 2 y old, from H.papilio x Pink Floyd - there has not ANY offset originated so far.
But approx. 16 seedlings indicate by the orientation of the subsequent leaves that they WILL bloom in 2006.
I am rather sure that 2 y seedlings of H.papilio and Pink Floyd (if there are any possible: Pink Floyd proved to be self sterile so far - at least under my husbandry) would NEVER have accessed the bloomable state (H.papilio bulbs neeed a considerable size in order to form a scape).

On the other hand I do not wonder soooo much:
If ever possible I select my rather low count of seedlings I intend to raise into the bloomable state from a very big number of youngsters which exhibit considerably different growth speeds.
And so I recommend you to do, too.
To make your breeding work EFFICIENT.
Perform mass sowings of the above mentioned selfings and the crossbreeding, too, on the biggest scale you can afford, and then scale down rigorously when selecting the best seedlings to continue with.

By this proceeeding you will never have the unfavorable occasion to see wonderfull blooms on plants with unacceptble growth behaviour... (you simply have none *ggg*) and thus never fall into temptation to keep such plants.

Hans-Werner

Hello Jack
Which creamy one are you reffering to if it is not there?.
Is it one of these.

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The first one is the 2nd flower of the one posted abow.
If none of the above please glve exect ref of posting.

Hello Hans-Werner
The pink slightly veined is the 2nd or the last.

Hello Lora
Please break your silence.
ARIF

The second - it is labeled BLUSHINGYG4.

Hi Arif,
I would use the flower in the 4th picture. Good shape,more smooth and regular,good ruffled edge. The one above it would be a good choice too. Lora

Hi Arif:
I refer to your last picture the white Lily type
with the blush pink petals..It may be plain looking,
but thats what I like about it neat and clean ..georgeous.
Jack

Hello
Hans-Werner
I do not address you teacher for nothing. How did you get the label I have given to no.2.
Lora
Thank you.
Willco.
ARIF

For that Amaryllis, I would call it Pristine as it closely resembles the rose of the same name.

Hi Arif:

Thank you.
You make me feel abashed:
I looked "behind" your photos with a "right mouse-click"
thus revealimg the "properties" of your image including the web adress line of your image file - that's all.

Hans-Werner

Hi Hans-Werner
I am wiser how.
ARIF

Hello
rosegrowemb
Pristine is a nice name and so shell it be NAMED.
Thanks
AIF

Arif, what has the experiment turned out to be? Do you have little bulblets growing or new blooms to show?

I'm very interested, as well! Genetics is a fascinating subject, and seeing how they set up from generation to generation is just amazing!

Arif; Those feathery colored seedlings are rather unique indeed! I would call them desert tone flowers...something I am hoping to strive for myself. In response to your question, I would combine that first really pink one with both the paler pink and the paler yellowish one (pictures 3 and 2 respectively). that way you will get a second generation that is pinkXpink type and YellowxYellow type, which may or may not help distinguish the characteristics more in the next generation. might try combining the pinkish with the yellowish to see what happens too.

basically Im with Hans...go nuts and cross all the best of them together...then pick out the best ones. Pleeease...make lots little offsets from them for all us drooling CHAD victims out here!

Very nice work Arif!

If it were me, I'd cross the best performers together, and see what colors are produced...

blayz, if he could send the offsets from Pakistan... :o)