The Permaculture meeting pagancat is talking about is something I mentioned in another thread. I'll repost here since more folks will likely read the new Garden Chat thread (great idea pc, it's getting to that time of year).

Someone on the Valley Permaculture board posted that she and her hubby will host a 'garden tour' on Friday the 28th, 6 to 8:30pm, in hopes of getting some interest from like-minded folks on the west side. If you are not a member of VPA just email me and I'll send you contact info for the event. Would love to find a group in my neck of the woods to hang out with and talk shop.

Cheers!

PC, I know you're way up north and there are some localized groups within the Permaculture Alliance. Lots of info here and if you click on 'groups', you'll see there are a few.

Here is a link that might be useful: Valley Permaculture Alliance

This is a link to the Urban Farm. Greg Petersen has been around for a long time, promoting gardening in the city. There are several upcoming events, one on Friday about growing fruit trees in the desert. Each year they take orders for trees that will do well here. I think their delivery is in January. Oh yeah, Greg's is the calendar so many of us use.

Here is a link that might be useful: Urban Farm

Urban Farm has branched off into Root Phoenix, it seems. There are classes there, too. I could be persuaded to meet up with someone for a class. ;o)

Here is a link that might be useful: Roots Phoenix - fruit tree info

*And* the VPA is also selling fruit/nut/etc. trees and vines off of their website. http://www.phoenixpermaculture.org/page/vpa-fruit-tree-program (and they're taking Paypal!)

If you are interested in knowing more about what does well here and how, they are also offering a class on fruit trees in the desert, link below.

Here is a link that might be useful: Class on Fruit trees

Here's one you won't want to miss. That is, if you have a bunch of $$$ to spare.

Here is a link that might be useful: Seed School

I have a spot where I dump a gallon or two each day (cleaning out troughs) so I have stuck a few Daylily plants there. I know there's a guy who does a lot of DL growing, but I got a feeling it's a little too labor intensive for me - anyone have any luck with them? I know I can't water them constantly or they'll rot, but I don't know how they do with our heat.