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Need School Planting Suggestions

16 years ago

Greetings!!! Thanks in advance for suggestions:

Background:

Like most other schools, my son's school has very little money for grounds maintenance, much less beautification.

The weeds and lack of flowers is more then I can handle...

Getting involved...joined the PTA, and pulled weeds.

I have permission to plant, and then maintain, two fairly large planting beds that flank the main entrance.

I have been told that the custodian will water the beds, with automatic sprinklers; guessing these are misters.

I'm fairly certain the soil is less then ideal - this is Colorado after all.

I have ideas of what I like, and what's available in my yard for thinning or seed collecting, but these elementary and middle schoolers could have very different tastes. Trying to please everyone ;))

So I am now in search of planting ideas.

*easy to maintain (will be my job)

*self seeding is wonderful

*lots of inter-seasonal color (this is where I am still clueless)

*perennials and annuals

*easy to winter sow (again, my job)

*survives on neglect

*mostly full sun - eastern Colorado exposure until 1pm

*direct sow is also wonderful

I had mentioned the planting idea to the PTA leader-lady and rumors are spreading!! People have left seed packets in the custodian's mail box. Now I feel like I can't let the people down!!

But winter sowing is such an economical way to achieve such awesome results, I am not intimidated!! Plus, I have such crazy tomato seed varieties, I can easily swap for the needed flower seeds that you all suggest.

My goal is to drag my kids to the school today to measure the beds and take "before" photos, plus remove any extra weeds.

Since many of my flowers are sending seed now, I figure I can direct sow some. Maybe with sand, to mark where the seeds are???

Thanks again, in advance!!

Deb / austinnhanasmom

Comments (22)

  • 16 years ago

    OK - measured planting beds and took photos.

    Turns out, I was wrong on the exposure.

    Due to building architecture, the beds get very little full sun. These beds are more full shade and filtered sun.

    I have VERY little experience with shade plants.

    Thanks again, in advance, for your suggestions -

    Deb

  • 16 years ago

    Hi Deb,
    Great that you are getting invloved,last year, my daughter and I did the same thing with her childrens school,she is in Wisconsin,pretty much all shade, so we went with a lot of really big hosta,different shades,and leaf shape, there were a few shrubs already there, not doing well, so we moved them to a sunnyer spot.Mulch,and we were done.Got it all done in one day,it also, was a large area.
    Good luck,it is a good thing you are doing.
    cAROL

  • 16 years ago

    Thanks cAROL - hostas are on the list:))

  • 16 years ago

    Rocky Mountain Columbine - tolerates shade, and is after all our state flower : )

    Heuchera - the newer releases are pretty pricey, but you can buy seeds for some of the older varieties, like Dale's Strain.

    Also, ferns, Bleeding Heart, and Astilbe.

    That's all I can think of off the top of my head ...

    Bonnie

  • 16 years ago

    Thanks Bonnie - your suggestions are on the list too!!

    I read that Bleeding Heart is poisonous. Is that true?

    I would think that kids 5 years and up would know better then to eat the plants, but you can never be too cautious with today's kids!

  • 16 years ago

    I would add Jacob's Ladder. It gives you some lovely blooms in the spring.

  • 16 years ago

    THANKS bev!!

    I'll add that one too!

    Great suggestions ladies -

    Happy Gardening -

  • 16 years ago

    Just about any plant can be poisonous to some degree, some far more so than others.

    That being said, I've grown various degrees of poisonous plants in my gardens for more than 30 years, even when my kids where infants and toddlers.
    There weren't any problems and they didn't touch the plants or eat them.
    Nor did their friends or our pets either.

    When we where doing the garden beds and my daughter's old elementary school, a few years ago, I had some concerns about the same thing, but the principal and school administration had no concerns about any plants except for morning glory.
    Morning glory seeds can be ground up or brewed in water to create a tea like beverage. The result is a relative of the old LSD that kids are using today.

    So off the list was morning glory vines.

    We used the following additional plants in the mostly shade, to all shade areas and they have worked well for more than 10 years now.

    Besides what has been listed above and I WS all of them for the gardens, including hosta seeds.
    Do remember though that hosta seeds will not come true to the parent plant. You never know what you will get, but they will be wonderful hosta plants.

    PERENNIALS

    balloon flower
    cardinal flower
    cranesbilll geranium
    toad lily
    any columbine, but the origami series will bloom the first year for you

    ANNUALS

    argeratum
    coleus
    nicotiana
    foxglove
    impatiens
    lobelia
    pansy
    wax begonia
    torenia
    marigolds

    Fran

  • 16 years ago

    Just some observations.

    If you can get some students involved it would give them some ownership and keep down vandalism.

    I've seen several trampled flower beds, so I think fencing/borders are useful.

    You need early spring to May and September to frost blooms.

    No one is at the school during the summer.

    Good Luck

  • 16 years ago

    Research your plants well, do not plant bee magnets or thorny plants near any pathway.

    Whatever you choose to plant make sure first that the plants are permitted before you purchase or take the time to transplant. Get anything and everything approved in writing from at least one school official with their signature.

    Fences and bed edgings are trip hazzards, if you want to use them have the school purchase and install them.

  • 16 years ago

    SO many wonderful ideas!!

    THANKS all for your helpful and useful suggestions.

    I will definitely get an administrator to approve/sign off on my planting list.

    I was at the Denver Botanical Gardens today and a kid in our group got bitten/stung by a yellow jacket. Not good for anyone!! I'll add a "bee magnet" column to my plant list.

    Fran - those plants are on the list too!!

  • 16 years ago

    Digitalis is great for early spring, and it reseeds. And nothing brightens a shade garden like coleus.

    {{gwi:265836}}

    Karen

  • 16 years ago

    Karen -

    A duplicate of that yard of the week is my goal!!

    SO pretty!!

  • 16 years ago

    The Anthemis tinctoria 'Golden marguerite/Dyer's Chamomile' I wintersowed this past winter has all the signs of being a real trooper. It bloomed so well the first year I thought it was an annual, but it's hardy to zone 3. In addition, it is making loads of seed, and I mean loads. I'm finding seedlings popping up even in my potted plants. It hasn't even noticed our extreme drought and high temps this year. Blooms for a long time, as well. We are ahead of schedule, and it is just now petering out on it's blooming after beginning to bloom probably in late June.

  • 16 years ago

    Thank you, Deb. Coleus probably would need occasional supplemental water in a dry climate, but they're not water hogs. As long as the custodian waters occasionally my guess is they'd be fine in shade.

    I thought chamomile needed full sun. No?

    Karen

  • 16 years ago

    Asclepia is a great butterfly plant and comes in many different colors. Some are annuals and others perennial. Though it says full sun mine grow in a partially shaded area.

    Abutilon, many colors, lovely bell blossoms

    Actonium, late (October) blooming for me.

    Clematis, some like shade/part shade more than others. Annual ones with yellow bloom 'Radar Love' easy to start from seed. Seed heads add interest when plant is done blooming.

    Salvia nubicola, 3' x 3' bushy perennial with pale yellow bloom, some red splotting on some blooms, late summer/fall.

    Thalictram 'Lavender Mist' 4' tall with lacey blue green folilage.

    All of these are growing in partial shade/shade areas of my gardens. Except for actonium, all were winter sown. Perennials from seed will have little bloom the first year.

  • 16 years ago

    I didn't see 4:00 , Marvel of Peru. The flowers are pretty and the seeds are nice and big for collecting.

  • 16 years ago

    THANKS so much for the suggestions!!

    Adding those to the list as well -

    thanks mnwsgal and muddypaws!!

    Trying my hand at cloning as well!! Although it's a bit close to fall, I think I can do it.

  • 16 years ago

    daffodils and crocuses and other spring bulbs could be fun

  • 16 years ago

    Thanks again for all of the suggestions!!

    Bulbs will make my have list, if I can find them cheaply. I am envisioning that most people will love the project and one or two will destroy it - so I'm doing it on the cheap. If the project survives, I'll add some more cash to the deal.

    I tried to eliminate water loving plants, excessively poisonous ones and sun lovers. Here's my list:

    If you take the time to read through it, please comment if any are invasive in zone 5.

    THANKS AGAIN ALL -

    Agastache Lavender Haze
    Anthemis tinctoria Golden marguerite
    Aquilegia Columbine
    Aquilegia Royal Purple
    Artemisia vulgaris Oriental Lime Lt
    Asperula Blue Woodruff
    Astrantia Masterwort
    Autumn Fern Brilliant
    Baptisia Australis Blue False Indigo
    Begonia Go Go Yellow
    Bergenia Winter Glow
    Bergenia red edge leaves
    Bergenia Redstart
    Butterfly Flower Angels Wings
    Calendula
    Clematis Mongolian Bells
    Coleus Giant Lime Light
    Coleus Giant Palisandra - Velvet Black
    Coleus Wizard Sunset
    Coreopsis
    Digitalis Summer King Foxglove
    Dryopteris Autumn Fern
    Echinacea
    Gaillardia
    Geranium Ripple Mixed
    Gloriosa superba Glory Lily
    Heuchera Coral Bells mix
    Hosta Earth Angel
    Hosta Frances Williams
    Inula orientalis Elecampagne
    Lamium macula Lemon Frost
    Ligulara Leopard Plant
    Lobelia Siphiliti Great Blue Lobelia
    Lychnis Orange Gnome
    Michauxia tchihatchewii Michauxia
    Milkweed Pink/Red
    Mimulus Puniceus Red Monkey Flower
    Mirabilis jalapa Marvel of Peru
    Nepeta Blue Infinity Catmint
    Nicotiana Only the Lonely
    Nicotiana Fragrant Cloud
    Nigella
    Pachysandra Green Sheen
    Papaver Checkers
    Penstemon Pikes Peak Purple
    Platycodon balloon flower
    Primrose Oxlip
    Primula Veris Cowslip
    Ruellia humilis Wild Petunia
    Salvia Evolution
    Sedum Autumn Joy
    Sedum Gold Moss
    Tagetes African marigolds
    Tagetes French marigolds
    Thalictrum Yellow Meadow Rue
    Thalictrum Columbine Meadow Rue
    Thalictrum Adiantifolium
    Torenia Clown Burgundy
    Tricyrtis toad lily
    Viola Brush Strokes
    Viola Labrador
    Showy Stonecrop
    Rose Campion

    Happy Gardening -

    Deb

  • 16 years ago

    I would take foxglove off the list. just licking fingers after picking the beautiful flowers will make your heart race. digitalis is used to correct low blood pressure, in the correct doses.

    My son's school is starting an Herbal Tea Garden. with potted mints, chamomile, stevia etc. A dedicated group will tend and divide the harvest between the classrooms. Then kids can make tea for snack time.

  • 16 years ago

    That's a good idea on the digitalis.

    Also a great idea on the tea!!

    I bought/and planted/ some clearance plants and the beds already look better. I noticed that a few new plants seem trampled, but I think my assistant (2 year old) did that.

    The other day a few students said "Thanks" and many adults have shown appreciation.

    But, I have been shocked to have some kids about step on me, while I am IN and tending to the beds - dumbfounded at the laziness and lack of common sense.

    My goal is cottage garden plantings and it could take years to complete, but I already have MANY MANY seed varieties and it's not really trading season yet!!

    To keep the project manageable, I'm going to WS the self-seeding plants this winter and then the more difficult to grow ones next year.

    Thanks for the great suggestions -

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