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Neo Polka Dot?

19 years ago

I bought the following neo last year. It was labeled 'Polka Dot'. It certainly is not the Polka Dot on the Florida site. If possible I would like to know if anyone recognizes it or has any ideas as to its possible parentage.

The reason I am asking is that I have been dabbling in propagating from seed (thanks to some great advice on this forum from Lisa and others) and have found this to be very reliable both as a pollen and seed parent. It may turn out to be a dud only time will tell if any of the hundreds of small seedlings amount to anything but I did like its shape even though the colour may not be great.

I have made crosses with every neo that dared to flower at the same time some because they looked like a good match others simply because they were there. I remember Lisa saying on this forum to just jump in so I did. I didn't just get my feet wet though I almost drowned in seeds and seedlings. I even tried what Lisa said not to do - use an albo-marginated neo as a seed parent. She was right of course the ones that have germinated are albino. They are only a few days old so I expect them to die before too long.

Never mind though, I will still have over 40 other different crosses to keep me occupied. I will let you know in 2 years how they went.

Also, I did enjoy the recent thread by bambi about picking 6 with the advice and comments from everyone - great stuff.

Polka dot November photos:

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Polka dot December photo:

Probably would be coloured better if I had it in a sunnier spot for the previous month

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Comments (19)

  • 19 years ago

    Well, I'm glad to hear you're ignoring my advice, neonut! ;-)

    That's okay, you tried it and you found out. Now you'll try this and you'll find out what happens. That's the best way to learn, but I sure see a lot of little tags in there-- hope you have plenty of space to grow them all out!

    I don't recognize the plant. It looks like it's TRYING to be more polka-dotted, but possibly needs more light. Or maybe that's all it does. I searched the registry and it gave me Polka Dot, Pink Polka Dot and Polka Dot Junction. As you say, it's not the first one, and it's definitely not the second one. I thought it might be the last one based on the written description, but when I looked at the picture that doesn't look quite right either. For one thing, there's no cup color, which yours plainly has.

    As to parentage, I'd only be guessing. I've seen that kind of faint spotting on a number of different hybrids with different parents so it could be anything from smithii to olens to spectabilis or even Takemura Grande contributing that trait. Hard to say, but looking at the offspring should tell you more. What all did you cross it with?

  • 19 years ago

    The plant doesn't have much color, but there is no telling what genes are hiding in there. I didn't know about the albo marginated fatal gene, I don't care for most of the varigated plants anyway, unless they have banding or marbleing. Albino plants are more common than I thought, too bad they all die.

    While looking through the FCBS databaseI noticed something for sure. Lisa and Paul have some nice introductions to their credit. I wonder if any of the others do. I'm ordering Lisas CAVIAR, and BLUEBERRY MUFFIN, BTW I purchased a Daylily named BLUEBERRY MUFFIN last week. BLUSHING TIGER will be here Thursday or Friday. I see 2 of Pauls I'm interested in too. I would like to know where Paul is in Michigan, I visit Daylily friends up there on a regular basis.

  • 19 years ago

    Get blueberry muffin #2 Bambi

  • 19 years ago

    Lisa, Yes I always take good advice- like when my mum would tell me don't touch that it's hot - sizzle, OUCH! You were right mum.
    As for space, well that could be a major problem but that's in the future I'll worry about it when it happens.
    I think you're right about the light. I had some leaf burn on a few plants so I probably overcompensated with the shade after that. I'll give one of it's pups a good sun-tanning to see what happens.
    The crosses I made were with: Charm, Garnish, Takemura Princeps, Amazing Grace, Deep Pleasure, Skotak hybrid(Carolinea x Painted Lady) x (Takemura x Meyendorfii), Concentrica,a pauciflora hybrid and an unnamed Alan Freeman Hybrid.
    I would appreciate it if you let me know if I should ditch any of them straight away from your past experience.
    I have also used barbarian, Duet, Fireball, Lilliputia, Lilliputia x fireball and a few other with other crosses.

    Bambi_too, you are right about the lack of colour but as I am just starting I'm willing to try anything to see what happens. I have Lisa's blushing tiger but i haven't been able to find blueberry muffin in Australia yet. I'll keep looking for it and many others I would like. If we keep growing our own from seed we won't need to buy any more in a few years time. Ha! Ha!

  • 19 years ago

    No you might not be able to find BLUEBERRY MUFFIN, I didn't realize where you were, but you've got some good stuff in Oz to choose from. I saw the photo of BEDAZZLED in the FCBS database along with a bunch of otheres that probably aren't available here.

  • 19 years ago

    You can't get things shipped in from the US, neonut? Don't you just need to get an import permit, as we do? I pretty much release all my stuff through Michael's, but Cheryl Basic (Wildfire Gardens) has picked up a few things from me when she's in town, so I'm guessing that's how Blushing Tiger got around. She's got a lot of Sharon Petersen's hybrids too, so you actually have an advantage there, since many of them are not available in the US. In addition, there are so many good Aussie hybridizers you hardly need us!

    I know Michael gets shipments in from Oz on a regular basis, so it's not like these plants can't travel. It just depends on import restrictions and personal connections.

    I wouldn't chuck any of the crosses out without growing them at least partway out, but I suspect a lot of them won't be worth saving. That's true in general with Neos, particularly if you are crossing dissimilar things. A safer bet is to look for a characteristic in your mother plant that you want to intensify, like the spots, and then choose a pollen parent that will reinforce that. Looking at your plant my first inclination would be to put smithii or olens or one of their hybrids on it, but then that's just what I'm into.

  • 19 years ago

    I have many plants from Australia and more coming...

  • 19 years ago

    Lisa and HDD,
    I do understand what you are saying about shipping plants and it could be a future option but as you also say there are plenty available here for me to choose from.

    I don't know the exact regulations but I do believe that the quarantine requirement are pretty strict with plants and other vegetative material entering Australia and rather than get involved in that I'll stick to the easy option and purchase locally for now.

    Lisa, thanks again for the tips they are much appreciated.

    HDD, Who are your main Aussie suppliers of plants?

  • 19 years ago

    Oh, well, if you have to quarantine them then that's a big hassle, I agree. Commercial growers may be able to quarantine them on their own property, but the average home grower/collector doesn't have a greenhouse built to certified standards, so the Dept. of Ag. does it for you and they don't take very good care of their plants as a rule.

    Hawaii used to have mandatory quarantine on all bromeliads and they would also treat all incoming plants with methyl bromide gas, which ended up killing a lot of them. Not much came in during that time, but they've relaxed it now so that it's just genus Ananas that's a no-no (gotta protect the pineapple industry). We still need a permit and a phyto though, so ordering just a few plants is hardly worth it.

  • 19 years ago

    Exiting Australia isnt to bad...entry is a nitemare

  • 19 years ago

    that neo's a Yellow Devil- in the Fcbs website it's not colored, but I have the same one from a respected bromeliad collector- Carl Green. Hope this helps.

    I've seen many "Polka Dots" that all look diffrent on ebay.

  • 19 years ago

    thanks twins, I'll check it out although I thought Yellow Devil might have been a larger plant than what I have.

  • 19 years ago

    Yellow devil isnt your plnt neonut

  • 19 years ago

    Yeah, not Yellow Devil. YD has reddish stripes.

  • 19 years ago

    Neonut, have you noticed that this plant gets the reddish stripes before blooming and then they disappear- just an observation I made with mine. I have a few, when I see it happen I'll post the picture.

  • 19 years ago

    twins, no stripes were evident at any time but would still appreciate your picture.

  • 19 years ago

    neonut I found one possibility on your plant ID may not be right but its close 'Noble descent' the picture on FCBS site is grown in very strong light conditions

  • 19 years ago

    Thanks hdd, colour looks similar but noble descent appears to be more vase shaped. There is a noble descent on Ebay Australia at present and assuming that they have it named correctly, even though it is not mature, it does not look the same as mine. Of course you could still be right with varying condition the same brom can show vast differences.

  • 19 years ago

    The ebay plant is very young and looks to be grown with alot of fertilzer and low light. It will flatten out Ck Dereks picture on FCBS..anyway I think one of the parents is correct and if tis is true yoors will tolerate alot more light if its got cruenta in the mix

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