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17 years ago

From all the advice I got I think I am going to get a charles grimaldi & a frosty pink.

I plan on planting directly in the ground, when should I do this? I was going to start now but we are having some 30s at night. What are the rules on temps? Should I wait, I donÂt want to.

Soil! Our soil sucks, it mainly clay. I have been using composted steer manure but was told it might burn them. So what should I amend it with that is the most economical? A bag of good potting soil?

Fertilizer. I hear they eat a lot. How should I fertilize them? Is there a slow release (18-6-12) that would work? 16x16x16 once a week? What should I do that wont break my broke bank?

Thanks

Tim

Comments (14)

  • 17 years ago

    I've had the problem with steer manure burning my brugs. After talking to people on here who use it on their's, I'm going to assume mine probably was not fully composted. I think you said you compost your own, so you may not have the same problems I did. Since I buy it at Home Depot, I won't ever use it on mine.

    Ryan

  • 17 years ago

    Great Choices!!!
    I would wait till your temps are above 40*F before I would plant them out.. I use composted manure monthly and have never had a burn problem.. It is home grown tho.. You could use it to make compost tea to water in and not take a chance...I can't even begin to tell you how to improve your soil ..much different than what I have.. BUT I bet someone from your are can help..
    I use compost tea,seaweed,and fish emulsion,epsom salts to fert. with.MG on occassion if I happen to pick some up.. I am going to try to do a bit better this yr..LOL
    Hard to keep up with so much!!!! Cows, Dogs,Grands Hubby and gardens..
    Kylie

  • 17 years ago

    Here's a link to the soil discussion earlier this week.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Soil

  • 17 years ago

    I would use bark mulch for the soil, milgornite for fertilizer and a spray bloom buster (0-0-40) for when you just can't live without flowers.

    Jim

  • 17 years ago

    If the cow manure if well rotted and mixed in the soil it won't hurt it but fresh can burn them. I mix in lots of compost some potting soil some composted manure sand fine bark mulch pretty much whatever I can get my hands on and put some time release fertilizer in the soil in the planting hole and still give them miracle grow and later on bloom booster. I am going to try milorganite this year as well. Check with you city solid waste dept. They may have free or very cheap compost. Ours is only like $5.00 a truck load I think.

  • 17 years ago

    I dont compost my own manure. I buy mine at walmart, lowes or home depot, its all the same. Earth Grow Composted steer manure. I think the company changed to steer manure/compost mix, thats what the bags said when I bought some yesterday. It doesnt smell like the regular steer manure did. I am going to call them & find out what % of manure is in there.
    Thanks for the link!
    Our cities compost isnt very good, i got it befor, never again.

    Thanks
    Tim

  • 17 years ago

    Tim
    The only difference between Cow manure and Steer manure is...LMFAO a rubber band and 3 weeks...LOL ..perhaps you just need to work it in better..I don't know .. Commercial manure should not cause burning..altho Fertilizer can...
    Kylie

  • 17 years ago

    OKAY!!! I must apologize....The only reason I think it is funny is...
    I wouldn't ever think about the difference between a Cow and a Steer except we have Cows (some soon to be steers).. All bout that rubber band and HoHo's .. ;O)

  • 17 years ago

    I thought it was funny, Kylie ;-)

    Earth Gro is the brand I used from Home Depot, and like I said it musn't have been fully composted, as my brugs did not like it. Hopefully just an isolated incident.

    Ryan

  • 17 years ago

    Thanks for understanding!!!!
    I hope so too!!
    You could always come to my house and get all you want!!!

  • 17 years ago

    I noticed the brand I used to get at walmart changed to humus/ manure mix. Is that what you meant? Roflmao at the hoho's. Don't forget to put me bag of cow chips aside Kylie.

  • 17 years ago

    Milorganite is amazing. I have been having flushes all winter.I last fertilized before Thanksgiving. Having a big one right now and decided to spray with H oil. Tarnished this one but the ones after will be happier for it. Time to hit the neighbors yard before it gets hot again.

  • 17 years ago

    Your funny Kylie. The stuff I got was called Steer Manure Blend. Here is a link to all of the earthgro products including the humus/manure.

    I always here about Milorganite, guess I have to get some of that too.

    Tim

    Here is a link that might be useful: earthgro

  • 17 years ago

    Thanks for understanding!!!!
    I hope so too!!
    You could always come to my house and get all you want!!!

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