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Sick Brug- Please help

17 years ago

What could be wrong with this brugmansia? I have several in pots, and some of them have these shriveled/crinkled leaves (even new growth), but a couple of them seem to be doing OK. I see no signs of mites/bugs, and my only guess is that I may have over fertilized them with Osmocote slow release fertilizer (I didn't know that this would be harmful as they're supposed to be heavy feaders?). Last year, I had a few that were somewhat like this, but not as bad, but this year, those appear to be doing OK, and a few of the ones that were OK last year, are now sick. They also appear to be growing slower than usual.

Any ideas of what the cause of the problem might be? Any recommendations on how to get these sicks brugs into better health? I've stopped fertilizing, and will be putting them in bigger pots.

By the way, I think that this one is supposed to be a Charles Grimaldi (which should be growing very fast).

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Comments (11)

  • 17 years ago

    I am not a expert but will try...Take it in the shower and run warm water over the leaves..Some bugs you cant see with the naked eye....Flush the soil too...Stop feeding her too... Just my 02 cents worth..I could be wrong..Good luck with her.... I would maybe even try new soil...Are their any bugs in teh roots too?

  • 17 years ago

    I can't really say but it's possible it has a mosaic virus. It won't kill it but can spread to other brugs. For now until you can find out exactly what it is I'd keep that plant in isolation.

  • 17 years ago

    Oh no! I did a quick search on mosaic virus, and the symptoms description matches what the sick brug has: yellow-green mottling on leaves is the most characteristic symptom of the disease. Infected plants have stunted growth, and flowers and leaflets may be curled, distorted, and smaller than normal in size.

    I think that I'm just going to get rid of the infected plants because apparently, the virus can be transmitted to other plants, and the infected plants will be infected for life!

    Any other advise?

    The pictures on this link look very much like my sick plant.

    Here is a link that might be useful: info on mosaic virus with pictures

  • 17 years ago

    I would say mites myself. I would strip all the leaves and throw them in the trash myself.

  • 17 years ago

    Could be a virus but it could also be stress. First isolate it then strip the leaves, change the potting soil, hose it off good twice a day & see if the new leaves come in looking normal. If they do, fertilize with something stronger than slow release. Mine eat Miracle grow twice a week when they are really growing fast.

    Linda

  • 17 years ago

    If could be some sort of deficiency too. I would do what Linda said and strip off all the leaves change the potting soil and spray it for any bugs that might hiding in the leaves then put it in the shade and feed it some liquid miracle grow and some epsom salt and see how it looks when the new leaves grow back. Keep it away from the others while you are doing this just in case but the virus usually causes a black ring on the stem or trunk that looks rotten as well. If you don't have that its probably one of the other things. Too much systemic insecticide can cause similar leaves as well and broad mites.

  • 17 years ago

    don't panic! it _doesn't_ look like mosaic to me - the leaves would be way more deformed and yellowed. also you mentioned that some were doing this last year, and then got better - mosaic stricken plants don't just "get better" :) you should likely separate it from the rest of the brugs until it improves as a precaution, but it's pretty unlikely.

    what this speaks of to me more than anything is inconsistency. are they getting a lot of water some days, and then little other days? have the pots stayed in the same place, or have they been moved to different areas with different light? have they been fertilized consistently? and how does this compare with how they were cared for last year? are there any patterns? there are a number of possible factors that you can narrow down by process of elimination.

    first, how much light does your plant get? I see that it's next to a wall... I had a double peach that curled and drooped and yellowed a little like that when the light was insufficient. if it's not that, then you may have accidentally overfertilized and burned the roots. or, paradoxically, it could be that the slow release fertilizer is releasing too slowly and you could have a deficiency :P you may even have mites that are too small to see.

    personally, I'd flush the soil really well with lots of water and strip off most of the lower leaves. give the small remaining leaves a good bath, even a gentle finger scrub with a mild soap in case there are mites that you can't see, too. and then, most importantly, leave it alone and see what it does :) watch the new growth over the next couple weeks, and keep us updated!

    good luck!

    Ria

  • 17 years ago

    My brug that was infected with a mosaic virus didn't really have deformed foliage. It was more discolored, blotchy then anything else. The broad mites caused more leaf deformity then the mosaic virus did. I'm not convinced that's what's wrong with the plant but it's a possibility if everything else is ruled out, especially a deficiency of some kind.

  • 17 years ago

    Z9 if they are going to live in a pots need a big one. Roots at 95 degrees and they struggle. I would put it or the pot in the ground.

  • 17 years ago

    Thanks to everyone for their advice.

    I stripped off all the leaves, re-potted all of the sick brugs, sprayed them with Spinosad (mainly for mites) and also gave them a mild trimming, but nothing helped :(

    The new leaves, although small, are still coming out crinkled! I think that it's time to get rid of them, and buy some new ones. Ony my Charles Grimaldi's appear to be affected (although they were stored with others over winter).

  • 17 years ago

    sorry to hear that all your attempts to improve the healthy look of your brugs, did not work out.

    Lucy

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