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Finally-BST eggs!!!! Q's

19 years ago

I was going to take my kids for a walk in the apple orchard, as we walked around the house we spotted 2 male BSTs doing their circle dance. We watched for a minute, then kept walking to the back of our yard, that butts up to the orchard, and I spotted her! I grabbed both kids and said DON'T MOVE! I have a tiny wanna be garden in the back corner, where I planted a single parsely plant this spring. I planned on using it for cooking, but then remembered, after it was planted that the orchard sprays hit it, so I just let it be. I've checked it a few times here and there for eggs/cats, but nothing. But there in front of us was a beautiful female (little yellow, lots of blue) dipping up and down on the plant. Then the two males came fluttering by and whisped her away. I only found 3 eggs, even though she was dipping up and down for a couple mins. Oh I was soo happy!!!

So is, there ANYONE out there that uses Queen Anne's Lace for BST cats?? I don't want to use the parsely, because I don't know what's been sprayed on it. I have soo much QAL, but haven't found a cat or egg on ANY of it. Makes me wonder if there's something wrong w/ it, or something. She flew over 2 HUGE patches of QAL to get to my little 12"x10" parsely plant. And the leaves on QAL are so thin and delicate, I can't imagine trying to clean it and feed it to them.

I've only raised some Monarchs, so please tell me the differences here. I've gotten the impression that Swallowtails don't do or eat as much as Monarchs.

How long till the eggs hatch?

Would I be better off going to the nursery and buying more parsely or dill (can't find fennel around here for some reason)

Any other tips!??

Thank you!!

:::Very excited..doing a happy dance..:::

Karri

PS Oh and on our walk we spotted 4 Monarchs, 5 BSTs, countless cabbage whites and that mysterious Spicebush Swallowtail. I got close enough for a better look. OH MY!! Gorgeous!! Definantly a spicebush st! I have no idea where she/he came from though. But then again, I don't know what Spicebushes look like! LOL!

Comments (9)

  • 19 years ago

    Congrats, congrats, Kerri!
    Apparently from what I've read, black swallowtails rarely ever use QAL. I don't know what to tell you to do. If the parsley is poisoned, then you'd be better off feeding the cats something else, even QAL. Would you happen to have golden alexanders or mock bishop's weed? If you buy more parsley or dill, be sure the growers, who may or may not be the people who are actually selling the plant, haven't used Bt or some other insecticides on it.
    It's been a while since I raised any BSTs, but I think it takes about 6 days for the eggs to hatch.
    MissSherry

  • 19 years ago

    Really? They rarely use QAL? I haven't read that anywhere, could you give me a link? All the information I've read on BST list it pretty much first as a host plant. We have BST's everywhere up here, and the only "wild" host plant is QAL, which is also very abundant here. It's been hard for me to even find dill, and fennel (still haven't found any) Most nurseries carry the parsely though. I guess I'll be heading to the nursery in the next few days.

  • 19 years ago

    Mine adore and really prefer fennel. I have never had a problem with buying parsley or fennel for the cats. Nuseries shouldnt be spraying them, beacause, presumably they are for human consumption. They only thing I have a problem with is fresh bought milkweed. If I dont spary it down with a bleach solution at first, I often seem to go a sudden onset of melt. I dispise melt. I think the big growers intentionally lace the plants with whatever causes melt. I have a favorite nursery here in Jax that I always go to, because they have the same views I do--caterpillars never truly harm a plant, and butterflies must be preserved. Talk to the people that work there, and if you happen to find host plants loaded with cats, and you dont get strange looks for buying the plants just because " they're infested", then you've found you place to shop from.=D

  • 19 years ago

    Gatorgrle, in theory you have a good point, who would spray parsley as that is meant for human consumption. But at several nurseries that I asked, I was told that other plants were sprayed or more than likely sprayed and the parsley may have gotten indirectly sprayed that way. I recently was told that after 6 or 8 weeks, most sprays stop being effective so would the plant would then be safe, but I havent cared to test that!

  • 19 years ago

    Karri~Congrats on your BSTs. They are so pretty--I've not seen any yet on my parsley, dill, and fennel that I have planted for them. Wish I could send you a couple plants for them.

    The ones I raised a couple of years overwintered; wonder if yours will do that too, although mine showed up in the late summer, early fall.

    Good luck with the cuties!

  • 19 years ago

    How do I take care of them if they overwinter? Just leave them be? Or do they need cold?

  • 19 years ago

    I am in SE Michigan and I rarely see Black Swallowtails laying on anything but Queen Anns Lace. That is why I find it hard to find the eggs. Queen Ann's Lace is mowed in the ditches and it is rarely over two inches high and that is where they seem to want to lay--never on the 3 ft. high stuff. If only they would find the parsley or carrots, or celery that I plant just for them in my garden, but no they go for the weeds in the ditches.
    Connie
    and yes, I have fed Queen Ann's Lace. It is hard to keep it fresh-it wilts very easily.

  • 19 years ago

    When I raised my BSTs last year, none of the ones I raised in the summer overwintered. It wasnt until about September that some overwintered. I found that interesting considering the fact that I raise them indoors.

  • 19 years ago

    Well, I guess these 3 bst's will be a learning expirience!! I did go to a local nursery and picked up 2 regular parsely, 2 curly (same as what she layed them on) and a dill. After I bought them, I first wished I hadn't, just use the abundant amount of QAL I have. But now after my monarch issue and the orchard spraying BT, I'm glad I did! At least I'll be able to give them whole plants when they hatch. I think that will make it a little easier.

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