Mine will not propagate from cuttings either. I usually just dig out roots myself. Put in the ground they should spread fast and you can dig the roots. In a pot ???? Mine are pretty invasive.

Jim

Jim the ones you sent me did great. The rooted cuttings and the plain roots. I dug a couple up last fall just in case they didn't make it over the winter. I was in the garden the other day and am happy to say that I see some sprouts coming up outside as well. They do spread like crazy here but I love them and I think our cold winters keeps them from getting too out of control.
Karyn

but how big a root piece does it have to be to grow? mine doesn't send out ANYTHING, just sits politely in the pot. I've never seen a sucker or anything remotely like that. it just doesn't do it in a pot, I guess.

and I absolutely cannot get it out of the room it's in to stick it in the ground - it's literally been there a couple years overgrowing the room. and besides, I'd just have to dig it up again in a couple months. so far my root adventures don't seem to have harmed the parent plant, but I'm just hoping they weren't in vain. it wasn't a terribly large root chunk, heh...

on a related note, jim and karyn, if you have any unwanted volunteer suckers, I would LOVE to take them off your hands. I actually have a humble paypal balance of my own right now, so I'd be able to pay immediately instead of having to beg friends to use their paypal/credit cards. THAT was annoying, lol..

ria

Ria, mine are still dormant. We have had a lack of rain here. When we do get some heavy rains they will come up again and I will send a few. They are native plants and grow in the back pasture.

Your root should grow

The Incense are a very good pain reliever/ Muscle relaxer dried leaves. Just a pinch. I handle the roots with gloves. The 1st time I shipped some to Gloria and they knocked me for a loop and nothing ever bothers me. I do not use gloves for anything else.

Karyn I was wondering if they made it outside. I am happy they did. They might come up a few hundred feet from your house and surprise you. They are always welcome once people see the flower.

Jim

really? I remember reading once that tea made from passionflower leaves acts like a mild sedative, like a cup of warm milk or somesuch. muscle relaxer and pain reliever though? I could sure use some pain relief... maybe I'll try it. how would one prepare it?

I always was more comfortable with the idea of medicinal plant usage for pain relief than mass produced chemical medications, really. and before you say it, NO, that does not include the most obvious one. LOL. I'm clean. I pretty much have a PHOBIA of medications, or putting anything unnatural into my system.

in what way did the roots bother you?

I'm so excited :D I can't wait to have more of them so I somehow won't feel quite so bad about the huge incense languishing away in my room on sunny days. thanks soo much in advance!!

take care :)

Ria

Ria there seems to be some speculation as to my species. It is called Incarnata or Maypop here. It has been growing in this area for more than 75 years. That said.

All plants differ. Mine are very strong. 1/16 of a leaf is good. I would dry a leaf and start with 1/16 they do not taste bad.

The roots juices absorbed through my hands put me in bed with a racing heart and the bed spinning. Hamala is the active alkaloid. I am a mule to medications nothing bothers me and it takes a whole bunch for them to achieve the desired effect. So this was very surprising to me.

"Harmine is a fluorescent harmala alkaloid belonging to the beta-carboline family of compounds. (MAO inhibitor or MAOI) and CNS stimulant. " (Wiki)

MAOI inhibitors potentate anything else. So be careful if you are sensitive to medications and levels.

Google Passion flower uses. Passion flowers have a long history of healing properties. I know the ethnobotanical composition of all my plants. I have always been curious.

Here is a link that might be useful: Passion flower botanical

Jim I'm almost postitive that they are P. incense. I'd posted pics on the passie forum. It also looks just like my other incense and it carries the virus that gives it yellow spots on the foliage which is carried by incense. The spots are intermittant and cause no problem. It also doesn't produce fruit for me whereas incarnata produces lots of fruit. The flowers are also much prettier then the incarnata : )

Ria many conventional medications are derived from plants like digitalis and tamoxifen. "Herbal" remedies should be just as carefully administered as other medications. I doubt that I'll have any extra incense vines. I like as many as possible to grow in the garden and this is the first time they've returned so I'm not sure how many there will be.
Karyn

wow, jim, that's so strange!

the thing with me is definitely not that I'm sensitive to anything, rather that I'm completely INSENSITIVE and the only effect I notice is a tummyache. pffft.

this is waaay OT, but when I went to the hospital following the second car accident in that awful week last year, they gave me percocet to take if the pain got too severe. I was wary of it, but after a week, when I couldn't even move, I caved and gave it a try, figuring since I was already tired it'd at least knock me out. after about half an hour, my hands and feet went a little numb, and I felt a little dizzy and nauseated. half an hour later, the effect had completely worn off, and it WOKE ME UP. never even took the EDGE off the pain, just woke me up, so I couldn't even sleep the pain away. HOW do people use OR abuse this stuff?

karyn, I know, I'm just as cautious (read: paranoid) about "herbal" remedies too. I stay away from EVERYTHING, lol. the closest I ever come to taking something into my body to alter how I'm feeling is a cup of coffee if I'm exhausted, and even then I try to keep my caffeine consumption low. I don't even take aspirin, heh.

Ria

P. incense it is then. I will still call them maypops locally. they would not understand. It is such a pretty flower. I do find it funny when I see one come up 200' from anything. When we get plenty of rain they go wild and cover the oaks for miles.

Ria try your passie. Remind me when we start fall and I will send you some.

Jim

I have an extra (Maypop) all ready to plant, Ria, as I told you. If you want it, let me know.

Jim now I am confused, you said previously the P. Incarnata was the Maypop. which is it?

hehe, I know, barry :D how old is it? has it flowered yet?

I'm gonna ask a friend of mine if he can take me over there to pick it up. what day would be good for you? we could probably even make it later today if you're not busy.

Ria

ria can you email me? The plant I have for you is either P Incence or P. Incarnada. lost the tag.

It is from seed sown in January, and I have full confidence that it will bloom profusely this year, it is a happy plant waiting for a nice owner!

Does anyone know if incense and incarnata are the same?

I just rooted some incense from cuttings ( on a heat mat in oasis with an aerator (thanks to Karyn for that idea)). Maypops grow wild here too and I always thought they were incarnata.
When I was a child we were told they "may pop" when you stomp on them and they may not. That's why we always called them maypops. We stomped enough maypop fruits to supply the world with flowers then.. It was a challenge!

Any thougts are greatly appreciated. Linda

linda, if I recall correctly, incense is a hybrid of incarnata x cincinnata. though a lot of the time it seems the terms are almost interchangeable... but that just may be mistaken identity.

you rooted an incense!? no WAY. aaaggrggh. either you're very lucky, very good, or it was an incarnata, LOL. I have tried endlessly and failed - they stay alive in water, sometimes for months, and even send out new growth in the springtime, but never root for me.

on the topic, what do you guys think is the best way to root a lavender lady cutting? I've just got it stuck in a jar of water for the moment - I was bad and nicked a little cutting from whole foods today. I don't really feel guilty, I mean I would have bought the plant if they weren't charging $25 for little ones. that's absurd.

ri

Sorry for the confusion. Mine are native plants that grow wild here. The locals call them Maypops. I was talking with an older gardener on the street. She said the Maypops had been here more than 75 years.

I saw the thread where on the passie forum they decided it was Incense. Mine do fruit every few years. To make a long story short I do not know for sure. But more knowledgeable people say they are Incense. So mine are incense. The true Maypop is Incarnata.

If I called my passion flowers locally Incense people would look at me real funny so Locally I will refer to them as Maypops. Make sense ???? LOL They come up everywhere when it rains. We have had 0 rain in 2 months so mine are still semi dormant.

Linda that may have been where they got their name. That is interesting.

Jim

I dig what you're saying, jim. why confuse them.. lol.

maypop. may pop... maypop. that's completely adorable!

Ri