If you're in zone 10 I would think that you would have no problems with either overwintering, but I have only overwintered brugs so maybe you'll get another opinion.Brugs are like weeds and with a little practice, you can make one plant in to 30 with cuttings, so depending on how big it was and if it was a named variety, $30 is not too bad of a price.

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Hi- you can definetely over winter Datauras- I have done that in zone 5- the first time I ever tried them- they survived sub zero temps- (although they had a foot or more of snow cover on them) I'm now in zone 7b, & they come back faithfully... you should have no problem- in fact- they are much easier than Brugs- and you can just throw their seed down, & transplant the babies all over your yard- it's a sight to behold! Welcome to this great forum!
Kasha77

But, that is only if I can produce viable seeds? The plant is small, and it's mid season already. Sometime my seeds are not viable if they are not pollinated. It would have to self pollinate. My bees are not at all reliable.

We do not have snow, but the occasional freeze. Lots of things can over winter here, but normally you need to get them big and established before winter. I may have to go back and get the brug, but the problem being it was so heavy. I don't want to put my back out.

Why don't you get a smaller brug? It will grow quite a bit this season and there shouldn't be a problem over the winter. You can plant it in the garden or keep it in a container. You live in one of the few places in the US that's perfectly suited for B. Sanguineas. Have you considered growing one of them? You should go to a Strybing sale. There was one last weekend but I'm not sure when the next one's coming up.

You have no worries with the datura. I have several plants (single whites) and (double purples) that are going on 2 years old. They all throw seeds like mad. I had several hundred seedlings come up every where a Dat pot was sitting last year. Mine made seeds up through November last year. The ones that froze down came bacl from the root. I dont think you have a worry in the world with these plants.

I have a whole bed full of white datura that came up all by themselves. Don't worry they will come back and don't need a pollinator.

It sounds like you are not putting it in a car to transport.

If you want the larger plant have you thought about buying it and asking the store if they would remove it from the pot shake most of the soil off and wrap it for transport.

When I am on vacation I have done that to get it in my luggage to get it home. LOL

I should look for a smaller one. If I really want it, I could bring someone to help me, I guess, but maybe I will happy with the datura? I could not actually lift it at all even a test lifting. It was only a five gallon pot. I don't understand why it was so massively heavy. It was like a small tree.

tropical thought if it was so heavy and like a tree, it sounds like that the money they want is not that much at all! I just took cuttings from the Flamenco. If they root, I can send you one and you can try that one :-)

Oh and here is my 2nd year single purple Datura, which turns into a double in the fall. {{gwi:520298}}From Pictures for GW friends

Lucy

Thank you for the offer of more plants, but it's hard, they won't allow garden things shipped to CA. There is some of med fly or something like that. I am concerned that the datura does not make any woody growth like the brug. Which could mean it can not come back all the time. Depends on the changeable temperature of the winter low.
I had some brugs once, but they had really bad spider mite and all the leaves fell off. I found a cure for spider mite too late. I had already taken them out. They grow very fast, so I think $30 is a lot for something I could get small and make big fast. But, it depends on how much of a hurry, or if people just want the landscaping ready to go right now, so they can show the house.

If you live in zone 10 you won't have any trouble with either coming back. The white daturas are pretty invasive if you don't cut off the seed pods you will have more than you want next year. If you don't like spider mites I wouldn't get a brug. They love them, lol.

Can Datura be better about the spider mites? I don't know why I have so many of them. I see other people in my area with perfectly nice brugs, and mine were always so spider mite covered. But, I found rose pride food is the only thing with something in for the spider mites. Maybe I should still with daturas. This is my first one, but it's growing already. It is bigger whenever I go out and look at it.

I ended up getting the large white brug after all. I was convinced. I got it over the weekend, I got help to it planted. Now the datura and the growing side by side. It's doing ok, but it looks a bit limp now and then. We have not had any heat, just cold fog all the time.

tropical thought it is just the transplant shock. Give it some B1 and Superthrive and be glad that it is not sunny and hot. I always love it or am looking for days that are like cloudy and cooler to transplant plants.

Give it a few days...hope it will recover and if not..hurry back and maybe have a picture ready?

Lucy

Brugmansias thrive in the cool climate of the bay area. Just take a peek at the brugmansias all over the city on Pier 39, Market Street or Union Square. They are at home in San Francisco. A lot of times, a "freeze" to us is not at all a bother to plants. We get cold really easily, while plants can stand quite a bit of harsh weather. Either way, both brugmansias and daturas should be perrenials for you, with the brugmansia growing into a small tree. Daturas overwinter well. SF's frost free winters don't pose a threat to them. They overwinter for me here in the central valley, where we do get frost.

Just let it get adjusted and keep it well watered but not soggy. How can you be so cold in zone 10? I wish for a foggy cold day, lol.

We have a microclimate zone 10, like Hawaii but does not get hot enough for some plants native to Hawaii. Zone 10 indicates the winter temps not the summer temps.