Pat

Thank you for taking the time to write such a wonderful post! Please - do not let the words of a few 'steer' you away from a great group of people! I've learned to 'grin & bear it' when I have to! Sometimes things happen that's just out of our control! People say things out of hurt, or anger, and really don't mean what they say at the time! But then it's to late! Same things happen in 'real-life' but we move on! Sometimes all it takes is two words to make the hurt or anger go away - 'I'm sorry!' Those two words alone can be a very powerful tool when needed!

Pat, I honestly hope you stick around! Most people are good, and then you have the bad apples! lol! There's always a couple with a worm or two!

Have a great day!

Mike

Pat, I am glad you posted this. I feel the same way about this forum..it cant be beat.
I AM sorry about the other night. I posted an apology to everyone the next morning for my part in it. But it got pulled. I dont know if someone complained or what, but the mod said she thought it was nice and all, but she didnt want my apology to feed any fires, I agreed. But there was no way I could possibly send every member an apology via email! I do have a life and kids to take care of, lol.
I hope you dont consider me a bad apple..I just couldnt take what was being said, I know it was wrong to feed the trolls..but I just felt like, if I didnt say anything, some folks might think what they were saying was true. I know most of you know me, and hopefully know better, but..
I am sorry, I do hope it is over, I hope they do not come back. If they do, I will keep quiet..I have already promised myself that.
please dont let what happened tarnish your good thoughts & feelings about our group/family. We are happy to have you here, I do hope you'll stick around.

Hi Pat!
That is a wonderful post you wrote.
There are a great bunch of folks here alot like family! and
just like family members sometimes there are disagreements
but then it`s over with and life goes on and everything
gets back to normal.
Im so glad you are staying!
Karen

Hi Pat,

Sorry the datura seeds didn't do well. I get erratic germination rates with many datura varieties. This year I had rotten results with my dats and the only one that's bloomed is my tatula. I have plenty of seeds from that if you want some and I'm sure that anyone here that had lots of seed pods on other varieties will be willing to share.

This forum is quite different from any others that I've participated in. Forget about the jerks. They don't stick around for long and are best ignored.

I didn't realize that you were from Eastern Europe. I've got to ask you a question. Did our grocery stores freak you out when you first came to the US? I'm asking because I used to work with the Washington Capitals hockey team and we had several players that came to us from Russia. The one thing that all of them commented on was the grocery stores here. They couldn't believe that there were so many brands of a single product, like 5 kinds of canned green beans, things like that. It was funny to see these 20 yr old men going on about the supermarket. lol

WELCOME Pat!!!
So Very nice to have you here... AND Thank You for taking the time to post and share your feelings.. YEP there are a few fireworks around here now and again.. BUT there is a lot of Love, Friendship, Generosity and Support.. On Occasion there's a few sharks that need to feed BUT it usually passed and things get back to the Best of the Forum which is all of the Wonderful Friends here!!!! I look forward to seeing you around!!!

Kylie

Yup Guys, I plan to stick around:))
I do understand that in every house there are some discussions and people are saying things they do not mean. We all did it at one point or another. The uneasiness I had a few days ago it's gone.

Daniellallel, do not worry it takes more than a few words/posting for somebody to make a bad impression on me. And to tell you the truth I did not pay attention who participated in discussion.

Karyn, yes when I first came here going in a supermarket was overwhelming. Beside the fact I could find everything I wanted ...and more, there were few different brands/type of the same item. It was so confusing not knowing which one to buy.
At the time I left Romania you could not find anything. Imagine going in a supermarket here in a meat department and literally see the fridge empty, NOTHING on the shelves.
From time to time we were hearing from a friend who heard from another friend etc, that they (everything was owned by government)will be bringing meat in different supermarkets. Two members of the family were going there to stay in line and camp over night to make sure you get some. You were not allowed to buy more than 2 pounds per person. Sometimes you were staying in line for hours and by the time you were in front everything was gone. The key was to find out fast when and where they will sell meat. Karyn, I think you got more than you asked for :))
Pat

Good stuff to have written such an informative note

I have looked in on the Brugmansia forum now for several years, but not often enough to recognize more than a few of the regulars

What I love are the pictures.

Pat, amazing all the information now available on the internet on so many many subjects.
And nice to talk with others, even if there is a bit of a tiff now and then.

Just people. It is all good

Diane from Canada

Dear Pat

I believe that what you wrote is touching or should be touching some OLDIES' minds and souls.

IMHO it was great to hear from a NEWBIE what effect the other night had on ALL OF US!

My thoughts were when I read all that was, that it will scare newbies away. SO GLAD it did not!!!

This is a forum that is as real as real life!

I love starting my day here :-)

Just heard some sad news and wanted to write a email. Precious took her place on my lab again so I read your thread and there is NO WAY I can wait till tonight to reply.

It touched me very deeply.
SO GLAD you found US!!

Hugs
Lucy

Hi Pat, I'm new here as well. I have those same feelings when going somewhere new, and my upbringing was somewhat similiar to yours. I will always be that way to some extent, but I keep in mind that most of my hesitation comes from within me, and I make it a challenge to overcome it. Because of each ones personality, we all handle a situation differently, it's just human nature. It is so refreshing to hear your inner thoughts, as it makes one feel they are not alone after all... Thank you for that...de

Welcome Pat, you will definitely enjoy our Brug family, and before long, you will be posting pictures of your own brugs! Your description of having to stand in line early in the morning for meat reminded me of years ago when we had to be in line to get gas for our cars! Thank God that is in the past.

I am still pretty new, but everyone here is so open and caring it is impossible to read the posts on here and not care, lol and want to become a part of it. My boyfriend Mike (I say boyfriend lol we have been together for 14 years and we have 3 kids together) anyhow my boyfriendÂs brother is ½ Romanian and they were both raised with that culture in their home. So I have to giggle when you posted "'You do not wash your dirty clothes in the street'" I thought of some of the stories I heard of their early child hood. I know only what my boyfriend tells me. But I give the credit for how he has become in part to his stepfather he gave Mike his strong work ethic and a open mind on the way other people live. I love getting on in the morning to, I look forward to the stories.
This is a wonderful form and your right I lurk around here and I havenÂt found another forum on gw that is as friendly.

It was nice meeting you Pat
La revedere!
Cassie

Eloise I remember the odd/even days for gas during the oil embargo in the 70's. I was only about 10 but do remember waiting in line at the gas station in my parent's car

Pat what a sweet and thoughtful note.

I agree this forum is one of the best on the net. I have never got the feeling of the regular posters thinking or expressing that they are Brug Gods!!! Never seen them belittle anyone and hurt someone's feeling intentionally.

I saw the little disagreement and moved on. I have been a member on GW a really long time and I have seen enough crazies come and go.

I never respond because that feeds their goal of interruption. I always envision those people sitting in a bad place in their mind and do not know how to find the good place. I chose to leave them where they are until they bring themselves out of the bad place I will never go there with them.

It is sad because if you live long enough to grow up you will have bad times. You should be able to be an adult and find a way out of your bad times.

Okay now I am rambling like the old lady that I am. LOL!!!

Back to the good place in my mind.....gardening and watching the flowers bloom.

Pat

Thanks for posting your viewpoint here. It is really bringing out the best in people. Also, we do take so much for granted here in the U.S, it is nice to be reminded that we are living in a special place and have all the opportunities one could hope for to do the best with our lives.

I'm happy you found our forum!
LOL, I'm happy I found this forum!!!!

Brenda

Thank you for such nice thoughts.

I worked with a man from Romania for five years until I retired last year. The thing I remember most was, even though he was smart and well educated, he had to develop basic decision making skills that we take for granted by the time we enter school. He kept waiting for the preapproved option to appear. I learned a lot from him about life in Romania, though.

Pat,

You will find this forum has the kindest group of people, they are so great here.
tim

Thanks everyone for the nice words. This prove one more time that this forum is awesome !!

Wow, Cassie you knock me down with the Romanian words. It was so nice of you.

Here you have the first lesson in Romanian..."La revedere" means good bye. You read it like it is written no tricky pronunciation.
By the way Romanian is a Latin language very similar to Italian, Spanish and French. Unfortunately I do not know any of them.
La revedere,
Pat