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Wondering what I'm growing here

18 years ago

After years of randomly selecting pretty flowers to enhance my roses I'm getting interested in all those pretty flowers for their own sake. Unfortunately I did not keep as careful records on the clematis I planted as I did of my roses. I still had tags for 'Asao' and 'Polish Spirit', but several others are a mystery to me now. I thought I'd go to the experts. One viticella is not in bloom yet so I'll post pictures later. In the meanwhile, could someone identify these clematis in bloom in my garden this month? I know that they are not anything very rare. I picked them up at a local garden center, not from a specialty grower.

The first one, possibly Nellie Moser:

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And the second one, possibly Ramona:

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I don't have any real confidence in the names I suggest, but do remember that the place I bought them sold those varieties.

Thanks for any help you can offer.

Rosefolly

Comments (24)

  • 18 years ago

    I'm sorry, I didn't realize there was a gallery here. I'll re-post there.

    R

  • 18 years ago

    We post pictures here as well rosefolly. The first one reminds me of Asao and the second one could be Ramona. The color looks off to me but it could just be an artifact of the backlighting.

  • 18 years ago

    I agree the first one does look like my clematis "Asao" and I don't think the second one is "Ramona"..the color is just too pinkish looking to me...Jeanne

  • 18 years ago

    This has already been useful to me, thanks! I was calling this white clematis 'Asao' and clearly I'm wrong. I'll move the tag immediately.

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    Any idea what this one actually is?

    Also, what about this one?

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    Jeanne, I think the color in the one that might or might not be Ramona is a bit pinker on my camera than it really is in the garden. If it were a bit more violet and a bit less pink, would you say Ramona is correct? Because that is how it looks to me.

    Rosefolly

  • 18 years ago

    Rosefolly...here are a few of my Clematis "Ramona" for you to see...it's really a bluish colour with a lavender cast to it..so hard to describe...notice the bar,anthers and connectives...Jeanne

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  • 18 years ago

    Jeanne, mine looks very much like the one in your first picture. My camera must be adding a pink note to the pictures. I think mine must be Ramona, unless there is another very common kind that resembles Ramona closely.

    That leaves the white one and the dark purple one as mysteries.

    Rosefolly

  • 18 years ago

    The white one might be Gillian Blades and the purple one might be Polish spirit. Just guesses.

  • 18 years ago

    FlowerFan2, I do grow Polish Spirit elsewhere, but this is not it. Not quite so vigorous, and blooms at a different time. Thanks for the attempt, though.

  • 18 years ago

    Still not convinced that it is not Ramona. Try and take another picture Rosefolly where the clematis is not backlit like it is in your original picture so we can get a better read on the color.

  • 18 years ago

    The "white" one looks like Claire de Lune to me. Anyone else think so?

    Carol

  • 18 years ago

    Doesn't look like Ramona to me either.

    The white one does look like Gillian Blades, I've never grown Claire de Lune so I don't know about her.

  • 18 years ago

    I've taken some evening pictures as opposed to the morning pictures I took before and I'm still not getting accurate color. Here is the one that may not be Ramona, only picture the color a light pinkish purple, not the cool pink of the picture.

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    Here is the purple one that is not Polish Spirit, only it is a deep, rich red violet. They fade after opening. The color of the new dark one in the background is the color I see for the ones that have been open for a while, and the newly opened ones are much darker yet. I hope this makes sense.

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    The mystery continues...

    Rosefolly

  • 18 years ago

    Definitely not Ramona. The color is still off and the sepals are way too pointed to be her.

  • 18 years ago

    Does your Not Ramona one look more like this?...Jeanne

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  • 18 years ago

    Jeanne, no, I don't think so. The petals of mine are narrower and pointier, and the color is much more in the purple range. It is a light purple with pink undertones, not a pink. That is a pretty clematis, though. I tend not to buy pink clematis (Asao an exception) because I have so many pink roses in the garden already. I need a little contrast.

  • 18 years ago

    Could the last one be Gipsy Queen? I just posted an inquiry about that one, and it really looks like the pics I've been seeing.

    Wish I knew what your pinkish NOID is - so beautiful, I'd buy it in a heartbeat if I knew what it was. But it sure doesn't look like Ramona to me. The last pic shows narrower petals and wavy edges. Ramona doesn't have that.

  • 18 years ago

    I may have an opportunity to go to Chalk Hill next weekend. If it works out, and if the clematis in question are still in bloom, I'll take them along to see if I can get an ID. If all this happens, I will report back.

  • 18 years ago

    Rosefolly,

    Could it be Blue Ravine? (The pinkish one.)

    You're so lucky to be able to visit Chalk Hill.
    Can't wait to hear all about it.
    Have a great time!

    -robinia

  • 18 years ago

    If I am able to go, and if the clematis are all still blooming so that I can take samples with me, and if I do get them identified, I'll report back when I know more!

    Rosefolly

  • 18 years ago

    I concur buyorsell888. Gillian Blades for the white. Claire de Lune has Red/wine anthers, not clear. In comparing pictures of my gillian Blades it is a match.

    I'm not even goint to try to guess on the bluish, pupleish, pinkish ones. Many are close but as most say the camera and lighting alter the color a bit.
    Dana

  • 18 years ago

    I believe the identity of 'Gillian Blades' for the white clematis is correct. Not only does the name sound vaguely familiar, but I was going through a page with pictures of over a hundred white clematis, and this one leapt out at me immediately, I will consider that one to be settled. Thank you!

    Rosefolly

  • 18 years ago

    Dear kind people -- I promised to get back to you after the trip to Chalk Hill. It turned out that we were not able to go after all. I did stop in at a Petaluma nursery called Cottage Garden. They had a large selection of clematis, none exactly right, though a couple came close. It's still a mystery.

    Thanks anyway for all your help. If I ever find out, I'll post the solution to the puzzle.

    Rosefolly

  • 8 years ago

    Glad you solved your mystery. Wonder what happened to Jeanne in Texas?

    RIP Miguel nckvilledudes

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