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Chena & Karyn, et al

18 years ago

Have either of you used the Cloning Box (krstofer at Passiflora forum) for Brug cuttings? Wondering if it might cut down on the time Brug cuttings stand in water and decrease chances of mushy rot. Appreciate some of you "handy-dandy" Bruggers taking a look and giving your input on it. A bit more elaborate than the Bubbler, but if it cuts down on the time cuttings are in water ...?

Dweeb, Barry, Mike, SNJ, Ruth Ann, etc. ... what do you think? I'm ever on the lookout for a better way to root cuttings! [grin] Gloria

Comments (12)

  • 18 years ago

    I have not built one ..but I have his link saved.. I think it is a great idea...
    Chena

  • 18 years ago

    I've never tried it but it couldn't hurt if you are having problems. It does look interesting.
    Karyn

  • 18 years ago

    I copied those plans down but never did get around to building it lol! It does look like a cool idea. There are places you can buy set ups like that but they are fairly pricey so I thought the plans krstofer had were great. He always did seem to have some cool ideas.
    Brugs seem to root so easily (*most* of the time lol) that I probably would have used it for something like michelias or some other type of plant cuttings that hate me :)

    Are you still having problems with rotting on all your brug cuttings or is it mainly the little green ones?
    ~SJN

  • 18 years ago

    SJN: So far, the cuttings I've potted in soil are either sprouting or at least looking like they're hanging on. The bubbler is now empty. This year was a disaster for me rooting in water. So, I'm reluctant to put cuttings in BOB right now. BTW re: pickle jar (great idea) what kind of water do you have ... city, well, distilled ? I was using distilled in the BOB because I have a water softener and was concerned the Brugs mite be sensitive to the salt even tho it's very lo-level. Appreciate your asking. Gloria

  • 18 years ago

    Gloria:

    May I could give that a shot. Trying to moderate the temp in the green room right now. Little skittish about moving the BOB into that room if it's only going to be at 55. That may be a little too cold for the water and cuttings. (and the potted ones.) Not sure.

    Mostly trying to get the temp DOWN - was at 66 the other day - stuff will actively GROW in there - and my pocket book will SHRINK (grin). I had turned it up to see where "middle" would keep the room - it was at 72. Thought uh ohhh. . .that's not "dormant" tempuratures.

  • 18 years ago

    Just viewed his method. I think it is fantastic, and I am going to build one. I have always wanted to make an ideal growing chamber considering all the limiting factors in plant growth. To supply Co2 with cartridges was cost prohibitive - NOW I have a way to effectively raise the level of the Co2!

    This year I need a plan to multiply my plants, from cuttings of cuttings. I know some here, have told me not to attempt this because you "need" to nurture the mother plant, first. Nonsense! If you are looking to get as many plants as you can from cuttings, why not treat the main cutting as a mother , or host plant. Considering SJN's success with a small version of the cloning box (pickle jar), I am going to make this cloning box for green cuttings. With this cloning box I feel you could successfully start young green cuttings, harvested off the host plant.
    All factors are covered, humidity, temperature (heat mat with thermostat), Co2, air circulation, light, root aeration, hormone compound and constant moisture control.

    I might add that the escaping heat and "pumped in" Co2 causes air circulation, and the Co2 tends to stay on the bottom where the plants are, since it is heavier and cooler.(know this from growing mushrooms indoors, need a bottom hole to vent off Co2)

    Modifications I will make:
    I will probably add perlite to the growing media.
    Temperature control. Heat mats and thermostat. (aquarium supplies)
    High output T5 fluorescent light.
    Heat dissipation controls in the vent holes. ( sliders )

    Here is another question, that perhaps Karma can answer: how do you do tissue cloning?

  • 18 years ago

    Barry: What strain of yeast do you think should be used to obtain the maximum and longest lasting fermentation to produce the co2? Can it be ordinary baking/kitchen yeast or does it need to be a beer/wine making yeast strain to produce the most co2 during fermentation? Kinda glad I asked about this method. Gloria

  • 18 years ago

    Gloria

    I've not tried or heard of this method. Do you have a link to it?

    Mike

  • 18 years ago

    Yeah, Mike: Go to the Passiflora forum (GW) and under the recent posts look for Cloning Box Repost (krstofer) He has diagrams and just reposted it. Apparently it's been a success in the past. Sorry, I don't know how to put in that cute little blue linky thing!! Gloria

  • 18 years ago

    I dont use the bubbler, I dont really need to leave mine in water a long time here so I just do the old fashioned way. I just use reg tap water in glassed to initially get the roots going then pot up to dirt/perlite (posted details on another current thread or two lol). In LA during the growing season I just stuck mine straight into dirt as long as they didnt stay too wet on the root area they rooted up very quickly. Cant do that here because the humidity is differnt.

  • 18 years ago

    I don't know what type of yeast. don't think it matter, just keep feeding them and drink the alcohol!

  • 18 years ago

    The Link for the directions
    Cloning Box

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