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Poppy Problem

19 years ago

I have decided that my front door raised bed would be pretty in Oriental Poppies next year. It is planted with 4 o'clocks already that make a great show after the poppies fade. The problem is starting the poppies this winter. I know they are supposed to be surface sown in winter. I tried that in my side bed. I also tried winter sowing in soda bottles, and starting in flats in spring. Transplanting the seedlings from flats or bottles is supposed to be dicey, and it was - I got about 50% survival, but the ones that lived produced a gorgeous show of flowers in late spring, early summer. Direct sow is the way to go , according to what I've read. My problem was that I got no survival of the direct sown seedlings. When we had a hard frost, the top quarter-inch of soil lifted slightly and then the seedlings dried out. The seedlings are supposed to be cold-hardy, and I think they were. I think it was the soil surface lifting that killed them. How can I avoid this when I seed the front bed next month? I can prepare the top few inches in any way suggested, but I cannot go deeper than a few inches, since the 4 o'clock roots are down there. Help!

Comments (4)

  • PRO
    19 years ago

    I am a big fan of growing these annual Poppies. I grow the pink Peony type, which will germinate in Spring so freezing and thawing wont be a problem to young seedlings. I think your problem is trying to Winter over the seedlings in situ, which just isnt feasible in your situation due to the problem you describe. Surface sow in January for March germination and it should work out fine. I have compared and done both and found that I got flowers only about a week earlier with the Wintered seedlings. At this writing, I have just a couple of seedlings that have decided to come up on their own at this time. While they are welcome, I wont count on them. I will sow in January.

  • 19 years ago

    Mirabilis makes a big fleshy root so I wouldn't worry about a little root damage, they would probably recover.

    Another trick may be to run out and soak the bed before a hard frost is predicted - or to water it the following morning, hoping the extra wawa would flatten out any heaving soil.

  • 19 years ago

    brenda, do you mean the perennial orientals or the annual types? the annual types are easy, and i've had no issues wintering them over- they seem to like the cold. the perennials will develop a deep root eventually and i 've never heard of getting flowers the first season with them. i've tried them every which way but loose- seedlings-winter and directly sown, plants, bareroots, etc, and have yet to have much success with them. but flanders, shirleys, california and breadbox/opiums all do really well here. i'd follow quirk's advice and sow in jan/feb. they say they particularly like it if you sow them on top of a light snow- you can see the seeds, they get chilled and soaked, and as the snow melts it draws the seeds into little soil pockets. mine reseed like crazy, and they germinate here in about a month or two. tammy

  • 19 years ago

    I've had no problem winter sowing poppies and planting them out. Last year I planted my winter sown seedlings of California poppies at the beginning of February, and they were wonderful. I do admit, though, that using the "hunk o'seedlings" method destroys some of the tiny seedlings. I've been thinking of winter sowing in cell packs this year to avoid some of the horticide--

    I'd love to learn how to disguise the foliage, especially that of the lovely breadseed poppies, as I wait for seeds to mature.

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