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Conifer names, corrections, Abies

I have a bunch of small grafts of conifers coming in this Spring from various sources. Edwin/Clement/Henk/Dax/etc. can you help with name spelling errors? Some seem widespread according to what I've searched in Google.

Abies alba 'Argauu' - 'Argan'(RHS)?
'Hockstuckii' - 'Hockstuckii'? 'Hockstuckli'?
'Ibergeregg' - 'Jbergeregg'? (I think the first is correct)
'Fin Holden' - 'Holden Arboretum WB'?
'Pancake'?
'Verkade'?

Abies fraseri
'Vashtii'?
'Zevechovli'?

Abies homolepis 'Havel'? Abies alba?? One for each?
'Variegated' 'Varigata'(or found after 1959...)?

Abies koreana 'Blue Star'
'Freundenberg'
'Nigrans'
'Rodzyn Gold'
'Winter Goldtip'
Abies koreana subspec. sikokiana

Abies nordmanniana 'Durham Dwarf'?

Abies numidica 'Anthoine'

Abies procera 'Blue Spire' 'Blue Spiral'?

Thanks a ton fellas for any help in advance.

-Will

Comments (10)

  • 13 years ago

    I can lend my help for one cultivar anyway:
    Abies numidica 'Anthoine' is actually a cultivar of Abies cephalonica.. It certainly looks more like cephalonica in my opinion. Clement Anthoine is the originator of this plant.
    See the link for the full story.

    -Sam

    Here is a link that might be useful: Abies cephalonica 'Anthoine'

  • 13 years ago

    I've seen Abies koreana 'Wintergold Tip' & 'Winter Gold Tip' written so can't really untangle that one. But I did stupidly pass one up a couple of years ago. I'll look forward to seeing yours as I can't really remember, very dark and the tips looked like points of light? Should be a striking plant.

    This post was edited by severnside on Sun, Jan 27, 13 at 18:01

  • 13 years ago

    Abies nordmanniana 'Durham Dwarf' sounds very interesting.

  • 13 years ago

    Bump, Clement? Edwin? I need an expert fellas.

    -Will

  • 13 years ago

    Abies alba 'Argauu' - 'Argan'(RHS)? = Argau

    'Ibergeregg' - 'Jbergeregg'? (I think the first is correct) Yes the first is correct

    Abies homolepis 'Havel'? Abies alba?? One for each? Yes
    Abies alba "Havel" and Abies homolepis "Havel" and Abies homolepis "Variegated"

    Abies koreana subspec. sikokiana or var. sikokiana.

    Abies numidica 'Anthoine' = Abies cephalonica "Anthoine"

    Abies nordmanniana 'Durham Dwarf'? probably correct.

    For other ?? I don't know.
    Clement

  • 13 years ago

    Howdy Will, why didn't you check my website assortment list first?
    It could have save you some quiestions about right written conifer names...

    Abies 'Pancake'= Abies koreana 'Pancake'.

    Abies 'Verkade'= Abies balsamea 'Verkade's Prostrate' which is mixed up with a flat growing Abies nordmanniana cultivar.

    Abies 'Vashtii'= Abies fraseri 'Vasti'

    Abies koreana 'Blue Star', never saw this plant.
    Probably 'Alpine Star'...

    Abies koreana 'Freundenberg'
    = Abies koreocarpa (x) 'Freudenberg'
    Often mislabeld as a true Abies koreana cultivar...

    Abies koreana 'Nigrans' = correct.

    Abies koreana 'Rodzyn Gold' = correct.

    Abies koreana 'Winter Goldtip' = correct.

    Abies nordmanniana 'Durham Dwarf' = correct.

    Abies procera 'Blue Spiral' = correct.

    The only one's I can't help you with are:
    -Abies fraseri 'Zevechovli'
    -Abies koreana 'Fin Holden'
    May be I can do this later om when you show us some pics of these...

    I hope I helped you with this info...

  • 13 years ago

    I hope it's ok to ask an ID question in this thread.

    Edwin, I bought this recently for a cheap price (unlabeled) at a farmers store! It looks like it could be Abies nordmanniana 'Barabit's Compact' would you agree?
    {{gwi:634762}}

  • 13 years ago

    Severn, it's the right plant with almost the right name.
    It must be written as 'Barabits Compact'.

  • 13 years ago

    I need your help again Edwin...

    Abies balsamea 'Verkade's Prostrate'? Sure looks like nordmanniana or even maybe koreana to me??
    {{gwi:634764}}

    Thanks in advance. I have more to ask questions about, I'll get to them. :)

    -Will

  • 13 years ago

    Will, that's an Abies nordmanniana 'Verkade's Prostrate'.
    It's too bad that the finder of this conifer didn't have a proper knowledge about the differences between the Abies species...

    It's big brown dull buds says that this one is an Abies nordmanniana, Abies koreana buds are smaller and shiney.