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Niobe is dead? or does this one die back?

19 years ago

I am not a clematis grower, but have recently purchased a few to give them a try. I followed the directions on the tag and so far so good...BUT last spring I planted a Niobe and it bloomed and then in the winter I can't recall what happened to it. This spring it looked good (allbeit small) and bloomed. A few weeks ago part of the vine started to look dead and I trimmed it up a bit. Now I am back from vacation and the entire thing looks dead. My sister (who was watering) freaked out because she thought she killed it, but that can't be the case as all my other plants around it are fine and she watered it.

I know I remember hearing about different kinds of clematis having different habits and that you cut back some and not the others.

My basic question is is this normal? and What should I do? I don't want to dig it up if this is typical. Ideas? It does have shaded roots and gets good light, but not direct sun until the late afternoon early evening hours.

Comments (4)

  • 19 years ago

    Homer, Niobe can be treated as a type II or type III clematis. That means that you can either trim it back each year or not. If you do, you lose the early flowers, but you will just get them later in the year.

    In my NC zone7a garden, quite a few clematis at this time of the year develop very dark brown crunchy leaves. The heat and humidity usually do a number on them and the lack of rainfall this summer hasn't helped. I have noticed however that if I cut the browned out parts off, that the interior of the stems are still green. This indicates that the plant is still very much alive and will survive. I however can't bear to look at brown crunchy leaves so I tend to cut them back when this happens. If you keep them watered and fertilized well now, they will often come back out with new foliage and bloom again in the early fall.

    Another thing to consider is that your clematis might have clematis wilt. If that is the case, then remove all of the dead foliage and discard it. Do as above as far as water and fertilizer and the clematis should come back--it might not be however until next spring.

    One thing to remember is that all clematis should be planted several inches deeper in the ground than they were in their original pots. This buries dormant nodes that can allow the plant to resurrect itself if it should get wilt, trimmed back accidently with a weed trimmer, or if an animal gnaws it off.

    Another thing is to make certain that the plant does not sit in water. Clematis like access to lots of water, especially in the summer, but they don't like to sit in it. It can lead to root rot.

  • 19 years ago

    Niobe can do just want you explained in zone 5 also. It is normal for the weather we are having. She will be fine & next season first thing you will see her vine as nice as can be. I have 3 & they can suffer this time of year but always come back in the spring & look brand new.

  • 19 years ago

    Nice to know that us southerners aren't the only ones with the dreaded brown out phenomena!

  • 19 years ago

    One thing to be aware of about Clematis is that they are almost impossible to kill. If you think one is dead, trim it back and leave it alone. It might take a year, or even two, but it will invariably come back. I had one that 'disappeared' for two years. I went to dig up the roots to plant something else in its place and there, deep down was the Clematis with two lovely, healthy roots coming up. I quickly covered it up again and it has rewarded me with dozens of flowers this year. So, be patient!

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