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Winter losses gallery, 2011

A place to console those who lost great conifers or if you had questions to whether or not you should/can keep your plant alive. Share them here and maybe we'll all feel better knowing it happens to every gardener.

Pseudotsuga menziesii 'Seattle'. Clear discoloration and defoliation of needles. We've had a record setting wet spring here, so this plant may have struggled with that. It does have lots of big buds all set to open but I don't know if it will survive, or if it will be worth keeping around even if it does survive. Normally a dazzling conifer, a golden-green color most of the year. I was very sad when I discovered this, particularly since I live 5 miles from Seattle.

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Pinus parviflora 'Hagaromo'. Also a plant I am dismayed to have trouble with. I don't have any ideas why, but about 1/3 of the needles browned up and I'll have to cut out. The plant may be salvagable(if ugly), as the majority of the top is fine. Any ideas? Also a too-much-water issue?

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Chamaecyparis thyoides 'Top Point'. Frost I am guessing as we had brutal, record cold and record windy conditions early last Winter.

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Comments (16)

  • 15 years ago

    A correction, the first plant is Pseudotsuga menziesii 'Seattle Mountain'.

  • 15 years ago

    It happens.

    My problems are water based. We had a fairly wet winter and a ridiculously wet run of things this spring. I have a couple fella's I'd move now if I felt I could extract them from the mud and muck w/o causing more damage.

  • 15 years ago

    Chamaecyparis thyoides 'Top Point'.

    Will...nobody can grow them. Very unstable and poised to croak at any time.

    I grew one for 3 years. The last year it was the best looking thing going in my garden. Come next spring it was dead. Throw that one in the trash can and move on.

    Beautiful Pinus parviflora 'Hagaromo', or it once was I am growing that one with no issues.

    Probably water issues. Does your soil drain off water effectually. Just a guess. Dig them up and do a close inspection.

    Pour a bucket of water in the hole and see how fast it drains off...also do a close root inspection for any issues.

    Dave

  • 15 years ago

    Any idea what is wrong with my mother's fir? It's like this all over, except the very top. Location is Western New York. It's been an unusually cold and wet spring. My apologies in advance if it is painfully obvious - I've searched online for similar looking conditions without any luck.
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  • 15 years ago

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    Pinus contorta "Chief Joseph"

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    Pinus ponderosa "WB sdl DD

    Cl�ment

  • 15 years ago

    ^^^ Oh NO, praying you don't lose that mature CJ Clement, is it still in with a chance of survival?

  • 15 years ago

    Very sad losses for all of you.

    I could show you pictures of my two Japanese maples that died this winter, but this is a conifers forum. I keep hoping, foolishly, that maybe there is some life left in them, so haven't dug them out of the ground as yet.

    I know this is supposed to be a photo gallery, but I already removed my two conifers that died this winter so have no pictures of them - a very nice looking fir, Abies lasiocarpa 'Glauca compacta' and a Picea abies 'Clanbrassiliana stricta' (Tolleymore spruce.) Probably neither cultivar is considered rare or choice by the folks here, but I was thrilled to find them at a local nursery last year and very disappointed that neither of them made it through their first winter in my garden. :-(

    Holly

  • 15 years ago

    I think my Chamaecyparis pisifera 'White Pygmy' is on it's way out. The bottom ring of needles are brown and the remaining tips are a little droopy. I just planted it last fall so I'm not sure if it's because white tissue plants take longer to establish or if I killed it somehow. The other 5 conifers I planted at the same time are doing fine. How do I know if it's a goner or not?

  • 15 years ago

    It's first winter, hopefully it'll pull through, was stunning last fall. Buds are expanding but with no green needles to feed it, I hope it has enough stored energy to put out some green.

    Pinus densiflora 'Golden Ghost'
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  • 15 years ago

    I have a problem with my 4 ft Chamaecyparis thyoides 'Top Point'. I got it from Greers 2 yrs ago, looks now close to a skeleton, will give it another month to show new growth. It does not have a girdling root, I checked, and I sprayed it last year against insects, does not seem to have scale. Last summer it had a huge crop of cones.

    My 1 yr old, 1 ft tall, Abies koreana 'CIS' got all upper foliage yellow, has still some green lowers. I will wait into June before making a decision. As dcsteg Dave says, Abies koreana in zone 5 is only marginally hardy. Though my A.k. 'Green Carpet' is doing fine. We must have had a very cold winter compared to past years. I.e. my large magnolia only has a few flowers, all through the area only the lower branches of forsythia have flowers. My 'CIS' was in a chicken wire cage filled loosely with bark chips. Most of the winter it was covered with 2 ft snow. : (

    Bernd

  • 15 years ago

    "...As dcsteg Dave says, Abies koreana in zone 5 is only marginally hardy..."

    I think Dave was referring to the heat of his zone 5. My 'Cis' has seen -20F (-29C) without issue (although I don't recall the snow depth that year).

    tj

  • 15 years ago

    I've had no luck after several attempts to get any Abies koreana to survive in my mid-Oklahoma zone 7, except one or two that only see 1-2 hours of dappled sun a day. Everything else the curls unfold and then they brown up in the heat.

  • 15 years ago

    tj, possibly I had a night of -25 F last winter, I am in the Northern part of zone 5. The branches are flexible, but as others wrote, conifers show slowly when they are dead.
    Bernd

  • 15 years ago

    Pinus ponderosa 'Dusty Blue'. Wonderful, huge, blue-grey needles normally, my poor little specimen probably tired of our Spring water deluge as well. Hopeful for a comeback but we'll call it cautious optimism.
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  • 15 years ago

    I have searched but I can't find a post about digging the hole and adding or not adding amendments to the backfill. I believe it has been said here to not amend the soil which I don't plan on doing.
    My question is how much bigger than the root ball is the best size for a BB Black hills spruce?
    Sorry if this is redundant but I could not find anything in a search.
    Thank You
    Anita

  • 15 years ago

    seriously anita... what in the world does that have to do with the price of tea in china and this post..

    start your own post... or find one of the 2000 posts about properly planting trees ... which conifers are ...

    where is brandon and his link .. maybe hanging out in the tree forum ...

    ken

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