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Curious about Cosmos

18 years ago

I'm curious to find out how everyone deals with cosmos and other plants that thrive in unamended soil.

I'm at a mental crossroads about how to deal with this in a couple of new beds I'll have for this summer. If I amend the bed for all the other plants that like amended soil, I'll get nothing but foliage on the cosmos that I'd also like to plant there. So, I can designate one bed as a 'no amendments' bed, or I can just resign myself to only getting a few flowers each season.

How do you deal with the placement of these types of plants? Isolate in an unamended bed? Or do you admire the foliage and very few flowers in your amended beds? Or -- is it possible to spot amend for those plants that like lots of compost?

Thanks, Laura

Comments (14)

  • 18 years ago

    I just don't fertilize those plants that don't need it. I don't have any problems with cosmos blooming in ammended soil.

    Sierra

  • 18 years ago

    I just throw the seeds where I want them and they grow and bloom all summer, wherever they grow.
    They ain't picky!
    Annie

  • 18 years ago

    I was actually thinking of asking a similar question about doing a no amendments bed and asking which flowers would be good candidates for such a bed. Cosmos, Nasturtiums and Cleome were on my list. Are there others that would be better off in average soil?

  • 18 years ago

    I don't amend my soil -do make compost (tea) and water all the plants. My soil is black sandy loam. And the cosmos bloom. Plan on planting more of them +lots of zinnias. to mix in with other plants.

  • 18 years ago

    Laura, you can add yarrow and gaillardia to your list.

    Libby

  • 18 years ago

    Last spring/summer I helped out in the Plant a Row for the Hungry garden maintained by our Master Gardening class. You can be sure the soil has been very well amended over the years, and yet the cosmos volunteers that came up here and there had an abundance of flowers.

    Diane

  • 18 years ago

    Laura, I think that a lot of us have had cosmos that were nothing but jolly green giants with no blooms at all. Research I've read says that a big reason for that is because cosmos needs short-days to bloom well. If they're started early enough, they will bloom in late spring, and keep on blooming through the summer. But, if they are just hitting their stride in the long days of June and July, they will refuse to bloom much, if at all, until later when the days get shorter. I don't really know how important the fertility issue is.

    ThinMan

    Here is a link that might be useful: Short-Day Bloomers

  • 18 years ago

    I sow and resow Cosmos seed on my property from Spring thru Summer and they all grow and bloom profusely clear up till first hard freeze.
    I have no answer for you.
    Annie

  • 18 years ago

    Last year the cosmos got totally out of control. I mean....frightening! This year I'm going to plant some of the pink ones - NOT the orange kind! But I'm going to restrict them to a bed along the driveway. WAAAAAAAAAAAY over there! (Get out of my regular beds.)

    They went nuts. Four to five feet tall....scrawny but flowery. Pushing everything else out of the way. You couldn't cut 'em down but you didn't want 'em to live...

    Good grief!

  • 18 years ago

    My gardens get that way with Bachelor Buttons. They reseed like crazy and show up everywhere. Beautiful, but pesky because they take over & then later they flop over.
    Annie

  • 18 years ago

    This is my favorite cosmos, called Psycho White Cosmos. The flower is more sturdy and full than other cosmos.

    {{gwi:643170}}
    Lorna

  • 18 years ago

    Nice, Lorna. Maybe I'd better try to pick up a seed packet of those. I like 'em!

    ThinMan

  • 18 years ago

    Thanks everybody!

    I'm just going to plant them and not worry about it. I think there may be a lot in what ThinMan said in his post because I've had volunteer cosmos that bloomed their fool heads off; and then I've had others that I started from seed in spring indoors that finally bloomed in July but without the vigor of the self sown plants.

    So now I'm crossing my fingers that my wintersown varieties will sprout/bloom earlier than later.

    Thanks again!

  • 18 years ago

    I love cosmos and they don't love me back :-( Don't know the reason, I always direct sow in different parts of the garden but hardly any come up. Those that do are usually immediately mowed down to the ground by slugs and snails, sigh... I certainly do not have over fertile soil, so that cannot possibly be the reason for their demise.

    Eduarda, trying again this year

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