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De Groots Spire Arborvitae

17 years ago

I've been searching for a tall narrow evergreen that can be kept at no more than approx. 2 1/2 feet in diameter. I would love to use De Groots Spire Arborvitae but I'm worried about winterburn. Is there anyone out there who has any experience with it? I thought I read someplace they are resistant to winterburn but don't know if that's true. The planting location will be on the southeast corner of my house right next to my patio. Lots of sun and possibly some wind in the winter. The soil currently is clay and somewhat rocky from the limestone from the patio and dries out easily so I will need to do some ammending I'm sure. I'd love to be able to use it if I can. Sky Rocket juniper is probably more suited to the space and soil conditions but the blue/grey color doesn't work as well and I just like the arborvitae much better. Any thoughts, suggestions, etc. are appreciated. (I'm in zone 5 - central Indiana)

Thanks!

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  • 17 years ago

    mrskaline i have 3 degroots spires and other types of arborvite. Im not sure about winter burn in your zone, because I live in 7a...Atlanta. However, all are planted in heavy red Georgia clay and are doing very well. I also have sky rocket thats doing very well also.

    My primary concern is with degroots width....depending on which publication/opinion you read width is anywhere from 1 foot to 6 feet wide with time. I plan on keeping my rather narrow with selective pruning if needed.

  • 17 years ago

    thanks ken....i would like to keep mine at their current 1.5 feet wide also....will keep a look out for multiple leaders sneaking in

  • 17 years ago

    Here's a shot of one I have(middle one of the three thuja's) that has never thrown a secondary leader and I imagine that's a rather trait considering all the ones I see in the retail trade these days. I purchased this plant from Gee's a number of years ago and it's growing in soil that resembles pottery clay.
    I have three others that have the tendency to throw in secondary leaders and some I trim out and some I leave. You need to be VERY selective when you purchase a Degroot - otherwise you'll end up with a wide plant. There;s a new mail-order nursery here in Ohio called Yellowwood Rare Plants that that sell a cultivar called Unicorn that supposedly stays a single leader plant. I know the owners well and I don't think they would advertise it as such if it would do otherwise. You can Google that name for their website.

  • 17 years ago

    'Degroots Spire' browns somewhat in Ohio, if you are just refering to the normal winter bronzing, ... its not too bad, other Arb types can get browner/uglier, so I wouldn't worry too much. Seem quite hardy also.

    If you not so set on the thin tower just use some 'Emerald green'/'Smaragd'. Would take years to get too wide and are a nice green. Or use both.

  • 17 years ago

    If would try the 'Smaragd'. There are reasons why it has become so popular.

  • 17 years ago

    "There are reasons why it has become so popular".

    They make a great filler plant at a affordable price. Big box stores sell them by the 1000's.

    There are also reasons to not use them...

    They are a multi-leader arborvitae that will splay apart under heavy snow/ice loads. Under extreme conditions I have seen them laying on the ground. Zone 5a is a great place for this to happen.

    Dave
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  • 17 years ago

    I have two De Groot Spire Arbovitaes, and they have several leaders which go straight up next to each other without spreading. The plants are 6 1/2 ft tall, 16 in wide. Most of the leaders start at the bottom up, one each starts half way up. One has all day sun, the other has afternoon shade. Both had some small winter yellowing, none shows now any damage. I have never seen them bend under snow.

    I could only leave the major leader on the Degroot Spires, but will probably tie the leaders together loosely with coarse rope. I also have 'Smaragd', but they are twice as wide and bend down under snow.

    But then I also have two Juniperus communis "Gold Cone', also 6 1/2 ft tall, 16 in wide, but only one leader each, both in full sun, no winter damage ever, beautiful.

    Bernd

  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Around here some people wrap burlap around Smaragd and similar cultivars... seems to work.. I don't think it's the cold that gets them... I've read it's the drying wind and sun combo... I am in the same position. I need to create a 10 to 12 foot wide privacy screen to block the view of some nosy neighbors who always seem to want to chat or see what we're up to when i fee like swimming and sipping on my beverage in private...

  • 11 years ago

    start your own post.. with some pix splaker .... maybe we can help ...

    wrapping in burlap is fine ... if you only have a few to do .. but sooner or later.. as your collection or garden grows... it can become an overwhelming job ...

    please go to your members page.. and add your location and zone ...

    ken