Some pretty strong squall-line type cluster TStorms have been barreling southeast from the Great Lakes area here into the mid-Atlantic state area last couple days. Alot of rain in some areas -- brother's place in Bedfrod PA has had 4+ inches, me about 2 inches. Looks like right now another cluster in Michigan aiming toward the same area. The forecasts have been blowing it w/their small amounts of forecasted rain.

" Some pretty strong squall-line type cluster TStorms have been barreling southeast from the Great Lakes area here into the mid-Atlantic state area last couple days." yep and those feel unusual for this time of year. Do I agree w/41 we could swing back to a dry pattern? Possibly. But the trend this year has been 'dry pattern looks like it's starting, then breaks down'.

I'm still planning on planting a bunch of stuff this weekend, because, unlike 2024 and 2025, the soil isn't bone dry from dry summer stretches. If I have to do a little watering through a dry early fall, that will be fine.

Real touches of fall coming up for NE at least. First is Labor Day and then again 4-6 days later. Cool coming from the north and northeast.

We got hammered twice with the storms, first Wednesday and then Thursday, I was without power, it came back on for a short while and then wham! we got hit again, was out for a day and half. I didn't suffer any damage to my home or property, thankfully, and I'm glad for even more precipitation -- it's been a great week for that. IDK how much I actually got, though.

"The forecasts have been blowing it w/their small amounts of forecasted rain."

Blowing it is putting it nicely...

Birds taking advantage of the north & northeast winds in the east/midwest US to assist in their migrations. One might guess monarchs would too.

A tenth and a half rain here on Sunday.

Another 2.5 tenths today.

Beautiful late Summer weather.

~80 for highs, ~60 for lows.

Looking like 3 more days in the triple digits and then we will FINALLY hopefully be in the 90's if not even lower from here on out!! Praise the Lord, after 42 days of 100+ this summer, we are all ready for some stinkin relief!

Edit: still around 0.3" of rain since the end of July when we got around an inch. Less than 1.5" since the middle of July. Everything is fried and the ground is cracked and crusty.

The recent US drought monitor shows the droughts are scattered but bad along the Arkansas River.

John, at least you can hope that many long-range forecasts showing a cooler and wetter winter for your area will occur, below:

https://www.weatherbell.com/winter-2026-27-preview

Reasonable rain here since May, but the water table indicated by my border stream (and other waterways) is still as low as I've seen in 20+ yrs. Guess is that the drought the previous 9 months before May is still showing effects and the rain since May has all been used by vegetation.

" Reasonable rain here since May, but the water table indicated by my border stream (and other waterways) is still as low as I've seen in 20+ yrs. Guess is that the drought the previous 9 months before May are still showing effects and the rain since May has all been used by vegetation. " Bingo. Same thing here.

OTOH, the mid-level soil moisture (6-18" down) IS better than it's been since the summer 2024 dry spell, so that's a relief. I had talked in another thread about my plan to build a 'reverse root protection zone' near a colony of Toona 'Flamingo', to allow a ginger lily to grow in its shade zone w/o getting swamped by runners. I will finally be able to do that this weekend, hopefully. You'd think dry soil would make digging with the backhoe easier in some ways...first let me say it wouldn't matter with a big professional backhoe. Because dry clumps can be easier to manage in terms of moving them somewhere else. (in my case, just back into the hole, without destroying the nearby lawn) But on the little one on the back of a Kubota BX, if you're already going to be fighting tree roots, you don't want to also be fighting the resistance of dry soil.

Tornado warning sirens going off in town here earlier this evening but the map of the warnings was north of here several miles.

FB showing a lot of wind damage in my old neck of the woods to the NE.

This thing below, trained over my place for about an hour. Last I checked, the rain gauge showed 2-1/2" but it's still raining. It wasn't all that dry yet, bc of lighter rains a week ago.

Another JIT rain.

No damage, no hail, not much wind at my place.

But now it appears that our summer is coming to an end.

We've had low 80's for highs this last week and now it's going to be decidedly cooler from now on. Sun is almost 20d lower at high noon than it was at the summer equinox.

The moisture will stay around here longer now and heat stress won't be a factor, it is nice to go into Fall with good ground moisture too. And we might get a warm spell yet in October.

Time to start getting my yard ready for winter while it's still halfway nice out there. ;-)

Bill, I've noticed for the last 20 or even more yrs, at least in general, is warmer falls and colder springs.

You never know around here. We had several high 70's and an 80d back middle of April this spring. Other than that, it was a very normal winter and spring but being the snow was gone and the ground was thawed already, that several day anomaly was enough to take out the marginaly zone hardy, which were not frost hardy, plants for me.

The temps went back to teens and twenties for several days after that thaw.

We didn't get a hard freeze last May but the damage was already done.

It doesn't take much of a change in the wind direction to cause all that when the lands south of us have already warmed up appreciably.

We often get a spell in January or February where temperature go way above normal (60's & 70's for a few days) and that doesn't hurt anything in itself, if there's a good snow cover and the ground stays frozen, keeping everything dormant (might get some sun damage then).

Today, steady rain started about 8:30 this morning, with on and off heavy showers.

Over 1" in the gauge already and it's supposed to go on until later on this afternoon. First nice all day rain we've had here, I'd say in years.

Cloudy, 51 degrees, no wind, no hail but occasional rumbles of thunder.

68-71d highs the next 10 days with a couple of 41d lows thrown in there.

Could be we're moving into a wetter climate, idk (so much for the Langbeinite). 🥲

edit: 1-3/10ths inches.

The cold front was a lie! Back to back triple digits yesterday and today and they are forecast every day until Sunday, now. We did get about 1.5" or so Friday (that doesn't show on the included graphic) when the high dropped ALL THE WAY DOWN to 94* And, unfortunately, no more rain forecast until maybe Sunday if the front actually comes through this time. I've lost a lot of ornamental trees and shrubs now. This is going to have a major impact on the local forests for years to come.

John, where along the Arkansas river are you? I see serious drought along most of it, but worse farther west.

I'm in the Arkansas River Valley near Fort Smith. It's west central Arkansas where the river crosses the Oklahoma/Arkansas state line.

As for the drought, we ended last year really dry. It's been so hot for so long now. We've had about 3" of rain in the last 3 months which coincides with the onset and duration of triple digit highs. What moisture we did have in the soil is long gone now.

Coolest fall temp so far here -- 44.5F. Certainly Canaan Valley WV was down near freezing.

You guys are well aheard of the curve, locals having to deal with temps in the upper 50's as if entering the next ice age. I love our Autumns, very nice sunny and dry weather. Sun still feels surprisingly HOT. Soil mositure is excellent as there was a day long delunge last weekend. No hurricanes in the Atlantic at the peak of the season..., very weird season. Much of our Autumn precip depends on tropical moisture, but so far, we are getting the rain from non-tropical systems. Guessing our winter will be mild and WET in a super strong El Niño year

Looks like a noreaster in the works for the mid atlantic later this week.

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-forecasts/upcoming-noreaster-threatens-flooding-gusty-winds-and-beach-erosion-in-mid-atlantic

We were in far southeastern MN the last several days. We managed to get our bike riding in on Thursday and Friday (70's and PC). Saturday, we woke up to 7.25" of rain and flooding along the Root River. We made it up to my sisters place several miles away, going on roads with one side washed out and seeing pickup trucks washed off the road from the night before.

A tree farm we went by had 6-8 ft. trees on a side hill flattened and we had to leave my sisters on Sunday morning with the power out and road closure alerts.

My flat sandy yard never looked so good when we returned here yesterday afternoon. 😌 4/10ths inches in my gauge.

September temperatures are holding up on the 'little better than normal' side but definetely cooler by the day. Still no frost for this month.

October will no doubt end the above ground growing season (we hope) even though I don't see an actual low at or below freezing, I can't imagine an October without one.

Indiana Garden Girl: I hear of flooding out your way too.

We hope you have been high and dry.

Good grief, some big rainfall amounts in places.

Bill, thanks for asking. We've been away for a couple of weeks and just returned today. 2" in the rain gauge, but just north of us we saw overflowing drainage ditches and flooded farm fields. Personally dodged this one.

With rains from the latest closed low/small northeaster system...we are tracking normal September precip. So this means I'm on my sixth month of normal to above rainfall, bar one - June was a little below normal. That's a great feeling after the anxiety of 2024 and 2025, when I had to water more than the other 18 years I've lived in this house combined.

I do wonder how long this increasingly odd feeling wet pattern can persist. (wettest August with no rain from tropical systems, and now this kind of low pressure system in a month not known for them)

I can't read through whole thread but I think someone mentioned this is now the longest we've ever gone without a hurricane forming, since the era of satellite monitoring started.

UPPER, weirdest hurricane season EVER in the Atlantic! same here, precip now all good, 0 contribution from anything tropical. current feeling is that our winter will be mild and very WET! Then, expect a very hot Spring.

UBG, about the same here, avg or slightly above precip since May. Some areas to the west in WV & farther west much above average. As 41 North says, no tropical moisture, and that usually means a dry Sept, but as this year shows, there are exceptions.

PS New Mexico right now is getting tropical moisture from the Pacific -- they need it.

Yes, Beng, I know about NM, was speaking to a guy here visiting NJ from NM. The lush wetness was a cultural shock for him. He showed me a picture from his house of the fires.., it looked like a muchroom cloud from a nuclear BOMB! Super El Nino means a WARM Pasific and more hurricanes, but for the Atlantic, it is a KILLER. I never remember an Atlantic season like this, ever! Of course, things can continue to be WEIRD with LATE SEASON tropical activity. Worst storm I ever remember in NJ was from a "subtropical"/hybrid nor'ester/hurricane that arrived on Halloween!

41 North, you must be speaking of the "Sandy" tropical storm. It got pushed due west from off the Atlantic by a high pressure just to the north. Destroyed my neighbor's massive 100 yr old barn constructed of huge white pine logs that had been cut from the surrounding area around 1910. Later somebody bought and salvaged all the logs on the ground which were still intact.

We heard a little thunder during the night and woke up to some nice moderate to heavy rainfall in the morning. No high winds, hail or anything other than about an inch of soaking rain.

Now it's tapering off but is supposed to continue with light rain until sometime this afternoon.

We don't need a lot of rain because of our nutrient leaching coarse soil but you take what you get, right? 😉

I'm hoping others are getting some relief from the dry conditions in other areas of the country.

Looks like more moisture coming up into the US southwest from the Pacific.

Pacific is alive this season, Atlantic is dead!!!

yes, the October storm was Sandy, terrible wind damage..., but, personnally, the worse one was Irene! Rain was insane, not so much wind damage, and we had tidal suge..., inland, through local waterways contected to the sea!

Some models show the hybrid-low off the Atlantic coast might retrograde back to the west some -- enough to lash the coastal areas w/northeast winds and rain.

Beng, yes, you are right, all of sudden, it started to appear in the local forecast. Was not supposed to be an issue except for immediate shore areas, and now all kinds of warnings issued for rain and high wind. Seems to be strenghening to a hyrid system, well outside the tropics. Meantime the tropical Atlantic is still DEAD at near peak of the season, WEIRD!

Sunset tonight.

36 F two morning in a row. First frost is just around the corner here in a frost hollow.

Some trees like black walnuts, black cherries and surrounding sugar maples have already lost much or even most of their leaves. My Japanese larch and coffeetrees have lost some of their leaves too -- and it's not from dryness.

We had a couple of low, low 40's a couple night a go.

A nice steady all day rain coming down now with ~1/2" expected.

Leaves are beginning to turn with the Maples showing the most, partial early color.

A lot of the Ash leaves have already fallen so I don't think it will be a great year for Fall colors.

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This storm is parked off shore.

satellite photo

And this is Hoboken train station tonight. Probably ocean tidal surge moving north through local waterways.

The offshore storm is rather fascinating as it has pushed an arc of rain westward that will prb'ly even reach me (tho much rained out) in west MD.

Beng, I think Superstorm SANDY took 80 out to the MIDWEST!!! Still not moving, seems to me these kind of lows cut off the jetstream are more common in the Spring than the Fall.

"I don't think it will be a great year for Fall colors."

I hope you're wrong about that, it's always disappointing when things go out with a fizzle rather than fireworks.

We're not showing much color here yet in SE MI. It'll probably be a couple more weeks before the main event.

We got an inch from the reformed nor'easter, on top of about 1.5" from the original closed low a few days ago. I was saying we had the wettest 'no moisture from tropical systems' August in the 20 years I've monitored condition here...I'm now pretty sure this September is going to match that pattern as well. Very odd, but I'm not complaining!

It's won't be as remarkable if this happens in October because it's more expected then. From October to December you can get very rainy spells from either nor'easters, or troughs with Pacific moisture crossing the country. I remember one storm in October giving me about 6" of rain in the first couple years of me moving here, that wasn't a tropical system. OTOH, many Octobers go by with only a scant fall of non-tropical rain, maybe scattered pop up thunderstorms from a cold front, and most of the average 3.5" or whatever coming from hurricane remnants.

At least the ground now is thoroughly saturated. Parts of my yard are 'squishing' that having 'squished' in almost 3 years!

Same here Upper Bay, both September and October can be VERY arid without tropical contributions, very odd season. Storm is now crawling north along the NJ coastline, bringing heavy rain into the NYC Metro area over night and into the morning. I predict very WET conditions until Spring. It has been raining here since early August.

Hurricane (downgraded on land) from the Pacific is crossing Mexico into New Mexico/north Texas and will bring rain eventually to the mid-Atlantic and northeast. This is much-needed rain for those southwest areas.

We picked up another 3/4" rain night before last.

More predicted tomorrow AM.

It's keeping the soil 'consistently moist' for a change.

Cooler temps now as I mentioned earlier but it did hit 74d and sunny yesterday.

" will bring rain eventually to the mid-Atlantic and northeast. " that will be hilarious if we end up getting rain from a Pacific hurricane, but I'm sure it's happened before. (as I said, pacific moisture can reach across the whole country in winter...)

It's actually funny becuase I wanted to do some gardening today, I have a lot of shrubs to plant, but we kept having brief moderate showers, that barely even showed on radar but made it annoying to be outside. This nor'easter refuses to die!!!

Alot of much-needed rain in the American southwest from the Pacific storm.

That moisture is coming to a town near you, eventually.

Started raining here early AM. Off and on downpours, supposed to continue until afternoon sometime. 1/2" in the gauge so far.

edit: 7/10ths total.

Rain from the hurricane remnants had been forecasted for my general area, but now has been pretty much taken out of the forecast. But the coldest air so far of the fall season is a sure thing in 6 days or so -- perhaps a frost here.

33d forecast here this week.🥶

Is it time for someone to start a fall 2026 weather thread? might mean less scrolling.

Anyhow, it's official, I'm planting for a mild winter. I hope you're right 41 north! No, srsly, all the predictions are that it will probably be mild...possibly with a big snowstorm or two...but big snowfalls protect most plants. And I get tired of maintaining my garage-based plant menagerie of > 100 of potted plants. There's plenty of stuff that HAS to be in there, like my darn citrus. So I want to minimize with stuff that is now big enough to go outside.

BTW between 4 citrus plants I'm doing 2X as better as last year - have 2 fruits instead of 1!

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On my pc, I can hit the 'End' button to jump to the bottom or the 'Home' button to go back to the top.

' Is it time for someone to start a fall 2026 weather thread? '

I'll pass on that. Not much to post about in the fall here.

34d last night and the roof tops are white.

I'm hoping for some Fall colors but that isn't looking so good either.