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Black Marseilles

18 years ago

I'm confused.

Is Marseilles greenish yellow or dark?

Are Marseilles, St Anthony, Honey fig and Lattarula the same fig or different?

Does any nursery in the country sell Sal's Corleone? (I've reached the point where time is important.)

Does any RELIABLE seller sell the true Tennessee Mountain Fig?

Learning slowly; Maggie, I did not understand your comment about the Zergonator until I stumbled upon the comments on the web last night.

Ox

Comments (4)

  • 18 years ago

    Marseilles (aka Lemon, Marseilles White, Blanche,and Lattarula among other names)is yellow-green. Below is a good picture of the fig(thanks and a hat-tip to pitangadiego!) Black Marseilles is obviously another cultivar. Re Tennessee Mountain Fig - not to belabor the point, as it has already been well-covered, but Tennessee Mountain Fig is Celeste - no better, no worse. If you want Tennessee Mountain Fig, buy Celeste from a reliable supplier and you will have it. I suspect, that like Patrick or Malcom's Supergiant, Tennessee Mountain Fig is simply a trade name given by the nursery to a well-known variety (Celeste). A few years ago on TyTy's Website, I recall reading that TyTy purchased the original Tennessee Mountain Fig mother tree for $500.00. I cannot verify the veracity of that story. Although I may be missing it, I no longer see the story on the site.

    Marseilles (Figs4Fun)

  • 18 years ago

    Mountain Man;
    Thanks for the comments. There is a picture of a supposed "Tennessee Mountain Fig" on the internet. Just google "picture of Tennessee Mountain Fig" and you will find a shot of a hillside in Oak Ridge, Tn with a fig tree centered. So this is Celeste?

    You can find flocks of Rhode Island Red hens everywhere, yet some strains are better than others. Is this true of fig varieties too? Are all Celeste going to be the same, or are there both good and poor strains of same-name figs out there?
    Ox

  • 18 years ago

    Ox;

    I cannot make a definitive judgment from the photograph in the link below. My educated guess from the appearance of the dormant tree and the description of the fruit (yellow-green)is that the tree is not Celeste and is one of the many green figs such as Green Ischia, Adriatic, etc. (The Celeste fig is reddish-brown in color.) The Celeste tree or bush, in my experience, is a little more compact in appearance. The tree in the picture is very "weedy" (has a lot of suckers growing from the base of the tree). Some varieties, such as "Alma", tend to have more suckers than other varieties. The tree in the picture could benefit greatly in terms of health and productivity from some judicious pruning (reduce the number of trunks to around 7 and cut the trunks off around 5 or 6 ft. from the ground). The person naming the fig probably (I am just guessing) had heard the name "Tennessee mountain Fig" and since the locale of the fig was in the Tennessee mountains and the fig was hardy, decided that the fig was a "Tennessee Mountain Fig". In my opinion, some Celeste variants are a little better than others, bearing a little more heavily or slightly larger in size. Of course, those traits could also be due to the health and vigor of the individual tree. The judgment that different trees are the same fig cultivar is subjective, based on assessment of the appearance and taste of the fruit, the leaves, the number of crops and other characters of the trees. Do all of the Celeste Variants descend from a recent (in an historical sense) common fig ancestor? Perhaps the recent DNA tests of the Celeste variants mentioned by Jon at Figs4Fun will answer the question.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Tennessee Mountain Fig in Oak Ridge, TN

  • 18 years ago

    OH, the person who took that picture should have picked
    a much, much better time to take it - with ripe fruit maybe,
    rather when it just got dormant (not even green leaves show!).
    George (NJ).

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