Rose question for Diana

19 years ago

Hey there, you seem to have a good amount of experience with roses and I'd like to ask you a thing or two if you don't mind.

I planted four David Austins on May 15th. They were in good condition when they arrived. They are bareroots and all had good healthy roots with pretty green canes. I did all the "right" things when planting them as far as ammendments and depth and all that goes. Since then, I've had a good amount of cane dieback on all but one. That one has leafed out on all canes and is coming right along. But the other three are giving me some anxiety. Two of them have had significant cane die back but do have new growth on one cane. One of them has several green canes but no new growth at all. I have kept them watered but have not added any fertilizer or ammendments until today and I gave them all a good drink of water mixed with Miracle Grow for roses according to the pkg. info.

I called Wayside which is where I purchased them from and they said to give them some time but made note of my call and will replace them if they should die.

Any tips or advice you can offer?

TIA,

Stephanie

Graham Thomas - coming along nicely IMHO

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Pat Austin - green canes but no growth

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Ambridge - looking iffy but there is new growth. Maybe there is hope?

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Tamora - same story as Ambridge...

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Comments (4)

todancewithwolves
19 years ago
I could be wrong but picture #3 looks like it has brown canker which is caused by a fungus called cryptosporella umbrina.

Edna
angelcub
19 years ago
Hi Stephanie, sorry I'm late getting to your post - it's been a busy Friday and don't even get me started on the crazy drivers on our freeways out here. ; )

Anyway, it sounds like you've done what you should have to get them off right. I think they just need more time. I notice you are in KS. What are your temps right now? Most roses don't take off much the first year and especially not until the day temps stay consistently warm. I also noticed that you still have the mulch around their trunks. If your night temps aren't in the freezing range anymore I would pull back that mulch. Make a nice ring of mounded dirt around the outside of each roses, at least as large as the rose is wide, and make sure you are watering them deeply several times a week, if needed. Water is their number one need right now.

Did you plant them with plenty of compost or manure? They love both, especially the manure when they are first planted. I think the food you gave them is fine but I would wait until they bloom before repeating any feeding.

How much sun are they getting? Austins can take a bit less than HTs and their cousins, the floribundas and grands. They can even take some shade but they do best with at least 4 hours of sun.

I know it's tough to wait for those babies to send out some canes but I think in your zone it may take awhile. I would definitely ask on the rose forum, too. There are several people in your zone that grow Austins and they should be able to tell you better than I can. Not that I mind at all helping you. : )

Also, check our Barrie's site. He's a fun read and has lots of good info. I'll link below. I'll check back in this weekend if I can. I have a quilt show I'm needed at and a couple of classes to teach but should find some time on Sunday to see how things are going.

Hang in there. These roses are worth it. : )))

Diana

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amare_al_giardino
Original Author
19 years ago
Diana,
What are your thoughts on pic. #3 having brown canker?
After doing some research, it appears that may be a possibility.
I did plant them with lot's of compost and bone meal. Even threw in a banana peel in each hole.
I'm hoping for the best but I have sent an e-mail to Wayside regarding the one with Brown Canker.
Thanks for your encouragement. I'll check out the roses forum and see what they say.
Stephanie
amare_al_giardino
Original Author
19 years ago
Diana,
I posted over on the antique rose forum and got several replies. One poster thought I might have them planted too deeply. After looking at the pictures, he said my Graham Thomas is planted the shallowest and is doing the best.
I did go out there and pull back the compost like you said and created the rings around them for watering. Now, I'm just going to keep them moist with lot's of water and see what happens. Worst case scenario, the survivors stay, the non-survivors do not and Wayside Gardens replaces the dead ones. ugh! Back to square one I guess.
Thanks for you words of wisdom.
Stephanie