Debbie, is the thickness of the base of the fan thinner than a pencil? If so, that is fairly small. A lot of the seedlings I'm growing now are just about that size. If you're meaning the leaves being the width of a pencil, then yes, depending on the variety, that could be normal. Where did you order from? There certainly is a difference between some growers on the size of their fans, and price usually does determine this.

As for double fans being attached or separate, I really haven't found there to be a lot of difference in blooming or clump size down the road. I find that each daylily is unique in it's growing habits, and some are far more vigorous or floriferous than others. Some grow big honkin' fans and others are always small. They are just as unique as people.

If you are questioning the size of the fans that were sent to you, if they aren't planted yet, could you post a picture of them with a ruler beside so as to gauge the size of them?

Thanks for the info Laurie.
I can't find my battery charger for my camera for some reason, but I potted up the smaller daylilies as I figured I could baby them along easier that way.
But yes, the base of Fun Fling & Lake Norman Spider are extremely small (along with Miss Jessie who isn't much bigger) Half my order came as single fans but at least all my order had a decent root mass.
I ordered from Floral & Hardy and I did email Betty to say that my order arrived and mentioned the two above.
She said she had some varieties not winter over well and she recalled those were two of them that did not do well with their winter and to let her know how they do this summer.
The more I look at them, I think I just got small divisions. (but the others like Joyce Brudd were very good size)
Deb

ThatÂs odd Deb, Lake Norman Spider is very hardy here.

I haven't received my F&H order yet, I hoping they will be in the mail when I go to town this afternoon. However, I had some very small unhealthy fans last year from this grower.

Growers should inform you first or don't send at all if the fans are not up to par, don't you figure?

Betty did though contact me about a Hosta that was not so great and I substituted for another cultivar before she sent the order out.

Sharon

I agree with Sharon, that you shouldn't have a problem with Lake Norman Spider. Mine's survived 2 winters now, and right now I see that it's got a few new fans coming this year too, so I'm already excited to see how well it blooms in a clump this summer. That is, providing we get any rain this year to actually make them grow.:(

F&H daylily fans are on the smallish size compared to some other growers I found. I didn't order from them this year, but that was mainly due to the fact that there were only one or two daylilies that really caught my eye on their site this year, so I opted to try out some other vendors. Time will tell if this was a good decision or not.

well it is good to know Lake Norman Spider will be hardy, if I can get it "going"...but Fun Fling will be iffy.(it is soooooo tiny)
I've also ordered from Artemis and Coral Kincaid, so will be nice to see how they all compare.
Just received my Sibe order from Parkland...OMG...they are huge clumps!! Was so pleased with prior daylily and peony orders and glad you suggested them Sharon for Sibes!!

Debbie

Hi all,

I was thinking of ordering some siberian and Japanese iris from Parkland but hadn't done it yet... sounds like I should...thanks Debbie and Sharon... I see one or two daylilies I've wanted too.. as well as a couple of other perennials..

Rob

You're welcome Rob, you're going to be in one big surprise when you see the size of PP's plants that they send. As well, their lily bulbs and peonies are HUGE!

Rob, do have a very warm and sheltered spot for Japanese iris? I've tried them here a couple of times with no luck over-wintering them. They must have a warm place by a building to have a shot at surviving.

Hi Laurie,

I was planning on putting the Japanese Iris in the perennial bed with all the other plants...
I know most Japanese iris are not truly hardy below zone 4 I think, but at Parkland Perennials they have been growing these Japanese iris: 'Blue Beauty' and 'Thunder and Lightning' for the last dozen years and swear they are hardy. Parkland Perennials is in Zone 2.
I think I'm going to give them a shot...
Have you tried these two varieties Laurie?

Rob

No Rob, I haven't tried those varieties. It sure sounds like it's worth a try. Let me know how well they do for you, as I may give them a try some time too.

Hi all,

Sorry Debbie, that this thread got so off track...
But I learned some valuable info here and would like to place an order from Parkland Perennials...
Thanks Laurie for the info on Japanese Iris... I got a ton of seed from 'Kivariver' or Nina LaPierre with my daylily seed order on the LA and she lives in Ipswich, Mass,(Boston State), I cannot spell it.. sorry...I know they probably won't be hardy here,but will try them next winter when they have more time to develop before putting them out into the garden...

If anyone wants to try a few seeds of Japanese Iris I have several varieties that Nina sent me... she mentioned that it sometimes takes a few months to get germination from the seeds, so I thought it was alittle late this growing season to start them... I think she's in USDA zone 5...

She is such a generous person with info and seeds and I can't recommend her highly enough...just a great person...
She sells seeds on the LA...

Rob