here's the backside of a leaf. if you can't see this,copy and paste this code into your address bar.

http://photos8.msn.com/imageserver/image.aspx?Image=HcZNnT9kkUh7v3gGH5Km4zm!Cg!Uhg6A7MnSslbT1JFz17iFTIHI8s6AzEsKWND6wK2teKTTYMqaw!NuvBamrUlK6Banh7C7f2!FbZrRS2fPgumWKYFdIh25HQG9yJmqc5OqOOsVfJ4$

Sorry Alicia, I didn't realize you had the second pic up! I was showing somebody else (Ubiquity) how to post a picture.
I believe this is probably Hedychium greenii, here's a link for you:
Hedychium greenii

WooHoo!!!! Margaret you get the prize! Indeed my mystery ginger (alias - Micky Hart Ginger, LOL) has found it's name, it is most definately Hedychium greenii. I am going to stash it in the greenhouse (the first frost is looming here) so that it can develope its keikis so that I can send one your way! Thank you :o)))