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Hostas and Other Stuff

21 years ago

I am combining a few topics in one thread. Starting with hostas. Have any of you started hosatas from seed? I started seed I bought this spring. Most of the seeds sprouted, but I'm not sure they're hostas. Do brand new hostas look sort of like vines? With leaves that have no shape I've ever seen on a hosta? I'm starting to think they sold me something else, but I have no idea what a hosta seedling looks like.

If you live in or near Forsyth county, Garden Wright has a lot of gallon pots of gardenia radicans for $6 a pot. I finally broke down and became a gardenia owner because the scent stopped me in my tracks when I was walking through the nursery. Now I guess I can join the gardeners who worry about white flies and unexpected cold snaps and yellowing leaves, and all the other trials of gardenias. However, my neighbor who let the hydrangea almost die has a gardenia she ignores, and it is thriving.

Finally, has anyone tried hypertufu? I saw a trough I wanted this morning, but I don't want to pay the price. I have read the instructions on the hypertufu forum, but would like to hear from a GA gardener who has tried it.

Thanks.

Comments (7)

  • 21 years ago

    Hosta's are members of the Liliaceae Family and therefore are Monocots, each seed producing a single embryonic leaf. Since this is not a "true" leaf, it may be of many shapes and sizes. Only when true leaves develop, will they conform to the shape and basic color of the predominant parent plant. If the seed are from a hybrid, they may or may not resemble either of the parents. Most seedlings will be a single color, green, blue or yellow. It is very unlikeiy that any will be variegated, even though one or both of the parents may have been. The enlongation of the stem could be a result of insufficient light. I have the problem with seed starts when using artificial light, even with full spectrum fluorescent lights. I have many Hosta seedlings emerge in the garden each year and they don't experience that problem. Seems that the ones in the most undesirable location, are the fastest growing! Expose them to natural light, in the shade, and they shold develop normally. Good luck!
    Rb

  • 21 years ago

    I have tried hypertufa and I live in Buford. If 'Sugar Hill' is your area we are neighbors.
    I've made several small items and a larger one. And a list a mile long of to do. You can see one of the little troughs to the left of the volcano.
    Here's my interpertation of the Colima volcano in Mexico.
    I was going to stain it but after having the pump for awhile it formed algae and the red is from the rust in our good old Gwinnett County water.
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    Here is a link that might be useful: Colima volcano

  • 21 years ago

    SugarHill,

    I haven't tried Hypertufta but I am dying to do so. If you want to try it together I would love to have someone to do it with. It may be cheaper if we buy the supplies in bulk anyway. I was talking about trying to do it with another friend. If you want to try let me know. I absolutely love the troughs. Did you see them at GardenWright? Did they have any good sales going on? (She asks after she just swore not to buy anymore plants until fall)

  • 21 years ago

    Our Garden Club made some hypertuffa planters a few years ago and they turned out OK. Given that success, I would believe that ANYONE can do it! There are many formulas for the ingredient mix and I suppose they all work. We had some trouble finding the fiber to add to our mix for strength(instead of using wire mesh), but Portland cement is now available with the fiber already mixed in. We aged ours for several months, allowing rainfall to leach some of the lime from the cement, in case the plants we eventually planted wouldn't tolerate it. Good luck, have fun and be sure to wear rubber or plastic gloves! Portland cement can be rough on the hands.

  • 21 years ago

    Thanks for all the replies so far. RB, all of these seedlings emerged with two leaves, not one, so I'm assuming they are not hostas. Either the packet had some other kind of seed or seeds sprouted that just blew in on the wind. Two of them look to me like clematis seedlings, so I'm keeping those two to find out what grows. I threw the others out. So much for starting hostas from seed this year.

    Cactus Freak, I love the volcano. Yes, I do live in Sugar Hill, so can't be too far from you. Maybe you can show Kathy and me how to do hypertufa. I just want to do one little pot - at least I think that's all I want to do. Kathy, I'm not sure about bulk buying for one little pot, but I think it would be fun to try it together. Anyone else want to try it with us? We could use my carport, which is a wreck anyway. Stonybrook, where can you get Portland cement with the fiber already in it?

    Hope everyone is surviving yet another rainy day.

  • 21 years ago

    Portland cement with the fiber mesh is sold as Stucco. HD and Lowes have it. It is not necessary for a small trough.
    The smallest bag you can by in portland is 60 or 80lbs. Depending on which store you use. That will make about 4 small troughs depending on what you mix with it. I mixed sand and perlite and peat for some things and leave out the perlite for others. You can use just sand and cement. It is heavier but ok for small projects.
    I just read the Hypertufa forum and used a formula from there.

  • 21 years ago

    I LOVE that volcano! How cool!!!

    GGG

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