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Need to replace beloved tree - please help!

18 years ago

We have recently had our majestic live oak removed. It was over 80 years old, huge, and was the focal point and anchor of our property. The tree was causing problems for our neighbors and in addition their building plans condemned our tree which had half its roots and branches on their property.

The loss of the tree is huge. It had softened and cooled both our houses and drives. There is a massive void where it once stood. We are anxious to plant another tree in its place as soon as possible so I would greatly appreciate any and all suggestions for the species of tree we could plant here.

The site has limitations. This tree is to be planted between our drive and that of our neighbors. The distance between the drives is about 10 feet of which there is a strip about 6 feet of our property available for planting the tree. Another oak or any tree that has spreading/invasive roots that will damage the drives are not options. As we have a two story house, we need a tallish tree to provide sufficient scale and shade.

We are considering a multi trunk foxtail palm about 18 feet tall but as we are in zone 9b (or possibly 10 according to the current thread on this subject - we are in the north of Pinellas County) are we risking losing the palm in a cold snap? Is there a better tree for this purpose?

Comments (12)

  • 18 years ago

    Start your search with hurricane friendly trees . That will limit the choices a bit .
    This link : http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/mg249 is a great resource for trees in general and also has some good recommendations .

  • 18 years ago

    Tipuana Tipu or Jacaranda - both lovely and neither should be a problem for your driveway or your neighbor's property. IMHO, I would stay away from palms - I just don't think they would be able to replace the 'presence' of your lost Live Oak.

    Kate

  • 18 years ago

    Be cautious about cabbage palms (if you were leaning that way). I like them but just read that they are dying due to a disease not yet identified. UF says they are hampered by lack of funds to do more research.

  • 18 years ago

    Can you grow mahagonies up there? We have two out front. They're in between the sidewalk and the street _ a swale that's about 10 feet deep (so technically they belong to the city.) They're more upright than oaks, but with time, they get large and look pretty stately. They're used a lot here in street plantings because they don't tear up sidewalks or streets.

    Susannah

  • 18 years ago

    Visit the Arbor day foundation website. They have good info, will answer questions, sell trees cheap and offer 10 free trees with a new membership (membership is $10). There is no way I could fit 10 trees on my lot but am splitting them up and giving many away.. Just an idea to consider.

    I ordered a Hydrangea shrub and pee gee hydrangea with my order for 2.79 each.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Arbor Day Foundation

  • 18 years ago

    Your neighbor would have done more for the value of their home by letting you keeping the tree, what a loss. Based on your parameters, it doesn't sound like there is sufficient room for anything but a palm, and Foxtail would be a good choice, very wind resistent. Might consider 1 or 2 little gem magnolias.

  • 18 years ago

    What would happen with you and your neighbors if you planted another live oak? It will take years and years for it to become anything like the one you had to cut down, but someday it will. And by then the neighbors might have moved....

    I've always felt that every Floridian with a speck of propety should plant one _ it's an almost moral responsibility for me, they're so beautiful, and native, and don't come down in hurricanes, and the native wildlife love them.... I could go on, but you are clearly mourning yours.
    And just think, someone planted yours a few generations ago. Wouldn't it be nice to do that for someone a few generations from now?
    We have one, a small one, probably a volunteer in a decade-ago hedge. But I like it and my neighbors that share its meager shade like it. And 30 years from now, when it's a wonderful stately tree, who knows if I'll be here or they will? So I'm happy to dream of the tree it will become and the people who will enjoy it if I'm not still living here then.

  • 18 years ago

    Thank you everyone for your advice and suggestions. Please keep them coming.

    Yes, I am deeply mourning the loss of the tree. I fought to save it and lost! The facts were that the oak made my neighbor and her little daughter sick with allergies and that their current house remodel included destroying half its roots and removal of half the tree which would have rendered it unsafe and caused its slow, or not so slow, death!

    For these reasons, as much as I love oaks, I can't plant another one. My neighbors love palms which is why the Foxtail with its instant height and canopy was my first thought. The lowest temperature on record for our city is 19 degrees in 1981. However I have no idea how low the temperature in our microclimate has fallen. I have read conflicting freeze temperatures for the Foxtail. Can anyone clarify? Also if it is fairly mature, say 18 feet or so, what is its likely life expectancy?

    I am now investigating some of the other species kindly suggested by you fellow Florida gardeners. Can anyone suggest where I might purchase a Tipuana Tipu? Further ideas and suggestions would be very gratefully received.

  • 18 years ago

    I can sympathize with the allergies and you are a good neighbor to help them out. Whenever our live oaks were pollinating (is that a word?) my DH and I sneezed a lot. Both trees were close to the house and unavoidable outdoors.

    I still love them though as did the birds and butterflies and they were great for shade.

  • 18 years ago

    Thinking of palms, have you thought of planting several palms that would create a shady area - placed as if they are umbrellas? (I will send you info on a south Pinellas location using that - the "Bradshaw Mansion" in Roser Park.)

  • 18 years ago

    Hi Sis,

    So sorry to hear about the loss of your beautiful tree. Would something like a tall, clumping bamboo work? In two years you could have a tall, beautiful screen that could provide a lot of shade, depending what side of it you're on. Recently Tomcath showed some gorgeous pics of a clumping bamboo on his property line. I have oldhamii and love it. There are some that are sort of straight up and others that are more graceful and grow wider. If it is a long area, you could plant three clusters, one every fifteen or more feet. The nice thing about bamboo is that if you get a culm where you don't want it, you can just cut it off at the base. No problem.

    Another tree you might consider is michaelia alba, although I don't know about the roots over time. Mine is two years old and about 15 or more feet and smells wonderful! It is a good screener as it is quite dense. I think it can get quite wide, though.

    I will keep thinking.

    Anna

  • 18 years ago

    I didn't suggest it earlier because folks have mixed emotions about bamboo, but it would serve your purpose in such a tight area. Scroll down to the pictures in this post to get a good idea of how it would fit in the area you're working with.

    Tom

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