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Roundup

17 years ago

Hi

I never use the stuff but was trying to get rid of a bougainvillea growing on the property line. Neighbors have 5 dogs and one (boxer) went wild over the stuff even jumped the fence and licked every square inch. Other dogs paid no attention. Anyway the Boxer suddenly died , the vet suspected an unidentified poison

As far as I can determine the stuff is not supposed to be that toxic to mammals. I feel very guilty about it and regret that I didn't pay for a toxicology report to determine the cause of death. If it's really that toxic everyone should know about at least.??

Anyway I feel I should offer compensation for the dog

But would this be an admission of guilt and open a lawsuit?? Also how much ?? It was an adult, fixed, mixed breed boxer.

In my gut I feel that I should just keep quiet but I do feel resposible . To make matters worse ,don't get along with neighbors because of the dogs which dig in my yard. Anyone have any experience along this line?

Thanks gary

Comments (12)

  • 17 years ago

    Hmmm...5 dogs that they can't control...you don't get along with them. I would let sleeping dogs lie! hehe!!! You didn't do anything intentional. I wouldn't say anything to the neighbors. I would call the maker of the product and feel them out over this issue. Maybe it had nothing to do with the round up...

  • 17 years ago

    I would think that if only one licked it he was either starving OR had a deficiency that caused him to do so. That being said he could also have found another neighbors rat or squirrel who had ingested poison peanuts or other rat poison and ate that. And if he was that excited over round-up think what that sweet anti freeze would taste like.Hopefully his vet or someone will explain that unfortunately poisons are out there, poison plants,neighbors trash etc and there is a leash law I would imagine. I love dogs too but owners have to treat them like their children and keep an eye on them!

  • 17 years ago

    OSHA requires that all potentially harmful substances have a Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS). Monsanto is the manufacturer of Roundup. Below is a link to Monsanto's MSDS sheets. Scroll down to see the various Roundup products. For each product there are links to both label and MSDS.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Monsanto Labels & MSDSs

  • 17 years ago

    I agree that you shouldn't feel guilty.

    As to its safety, I imagine that if they say it's safe for pets it means they can be in the same yard together with no ill effects. Ingesting that much of it may be a different story.

    BTW, I just found out that in spite of the fact that it as advertised as having no residual effect, it can reduce seed germination in the area where it is sprayed.

  • 17 years ago

    Not as bad as losing a dog, but I did kill two citrus trees by spraying Roundup lightly under the trees to keep the weeds clear. I learned the hard way.

  • 17 years ago

    As a Boxer owner and Boxer Rescue advocate , I know how goofy and dumb Boxers can be .
    If my neighbor came to me and told me what had happened , I would not be mad at the neighbor . I would chaulk it up as an example of " that's just the kind of mischief Boxers find !
    Boxers are not for everyone and can be difficult to own. It takes a special person to be a good Boxer owner . It's a love it or hate it breed . As cruel as it may sound , this Boxer may be way better off dead than living with a family that does not take proper care of their dogs and give the extra care and love it takes to own a Boxer .
    And next time , I might think about choosing a shovel and loppers for eliminating roots and a plant instead of Roundup - if possible . With a Bougie - this may not have been an option in your case .

  • 17 years ago

    Gatormom
    That bougie was torn down by the hurricanes This was my first time resorting to chemicals The trunk is over 4 feet wide ingrown into a chain link fence. Only way to dig it out would be to remove the fence also .Then I'd really have a dog problem??? lol
    My wife believes that the neighbors think we poisoned the dog on purpose. If so, don't see how we'd arrive at a value. Not sure as they won't speak to us. Have never been opposed to the dogs just the digging I don't own a dog but certainly wouldn't allow it to jump the fence. I'd get a bigger fence or smaller dog.??
    Might add that after all this the Roundup did not work .
    Some sprouts are coming up about 10 feet from the main plant!!!
    Thanks everyone for the advice. Guess it might serve as aw arning to keep a close eye on your pets around the stuff??? gary

  • 17 years ago

    Gary I know you feel bad but something doesn't add up to me? The dog jumped the fence to lick it all up? Sounds like he was soo thursty or something else was going on with with him. Maybe he got into rat poison and was thursty. I know rats will go to water after ingesting poison.
    I really don't think it was your fault!

  • 17 years ago

    I agree that it is not your fault. They should not allow their dogs to get into your yard. I have a dog and keep her in my yard or on a leash. It really bugs me to no end when people in my area let their dogs run wild. I would not mention it to your neighbors unless they bring it up; and then would tell them it is their responsibility to keep track of what their dogs are doing. Also they probably were not caring for their dogs correctly; water, food, attention...so don't give it another thought.

  • 17 years ago

    I won't speculate about the dog.
    For the stump you need a shrub killer not an weed killer. Try 2,4 D or something of the sort.

  • 17 years ago

    I asked the Vet I work for if he had ever heard of a dog being poisoned by Roundup and he said no. He added he thought that Roundup was pretty safe and if it was a problem you'd be reading alot about it. Your post is the first we've heard.

  • 17 years ago

    Coffemom
    That is what i've read also but most of the info was put out by Monsanto lol Unfortuneately I never noticed the boxer eating it until after the third application. Odd he was the only one who had an interest and he just seemed to love it. Others actually seemed repelled by it. He must have eaten a lot for sure.
    Death did occur within 7 days of the application and he was the only one who died . Was a young dog who seemed in good health. Could be a coincidence though he was kept in a fenced yard but several times he jumped the fence.
    Not much I can do about it particularly since I can't talk to the owners about it. Never crossed my mind that a dog would find it delicious lol
    Might serve as a heads up to others who use the stuff.?? gary

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