LOL on lunch break I just picked up
'Royal Flush' Lacunosa

I almost past it up becuase of my other Lacnosa varieties but the foliage is pretty amazing. Green and green and blue and green type colors on the leaves

-David

Peanut, I am interested in some of your cuttings, I especially like "kentiana" and "Snowcaps lacunosa" I don't unfortunately have the ones your looking for. What i have you already have also but I do have some other houseplants,like, "lipstick plant" "burrows tail" "Jade" "wandering Jew" and "grape ivy" Let me know and I will start rooting some up, Lori

Hi Peanut,

You might want to post this at the Exchange Page of Hoya Forum as that's where folks usually go to arrange swaps & list their cuttings on their 'trade' page.

Also FYI, we try to stay away from the EA names which are often wrong or invented:

Example: there is no Hoya 'stripes' except that EA decided to invent this name. This Hoya is correctly called H. curtisii (a particular favorite of mine).

You may find it helpful to search for my old thread called something like "Pirate Girl's list of correctly named EA Hoyas" which I'd originally written out for myself several years ago to help me sort this out. Some folks have found it to be useful (sorry, I don't know how to provide a link). HTH = hope this helps.

Hi Peanut, wow...that is a very large Lacunosa you have there! 18" pot is Huge, great growing!

Below is the link that Pirate Girl was talking about...very helpful with correctly ID'ing EA hoyas.

Here is a link that might be useful: Pirate Girl's EA hoya ID's

This should give you some idea of just HOW BAD the EA labeling system is. Yesterday I was in one of our local Lowes stores and there was a new shipment of EA plants in. There must have been around 6 or 8 hoyas in the lot. I lost my DS-70 so have been looking for another one to replace it with. I picked up one of the baskets and it said bilobata on it. I picked up another which had the exact same hoya and the label on the second basket said tsangii yet both hoyas were identical. I'm not sure who is responsible for the labeling of the plants at that establishment but they quite obviously have no idea what so ever as to what they are doing.

Ah . . . the Herman Engleman Greenhouses . . . gotta love em! hahaha

Carolyn

Hi DMichael,

Don't be surprised if you see that same plant yet again by EA, but this time labeled H. sulawesi. I've seen them use all THREE names on DS-70/Tsangii --- GRRRRRRRRR!

Here are the pics of the 3 Hoyas in question... All of these a pretty similar to me but distinctly different.

Bilobata - DS-70 - Mostly flat leaf, a little underside curve on the edges of the leaves.

Brevialata - The leaves are more flat than the other 2. Also the leaves appear a little bigger in size.

Sulawesi - The leaves on this one are the lightest green out of the 3 grown in similar conditions. The leave is very concave. These leaves have the most curl and if I turn them over they appear to be mini bowls. Also this variety has the most pubescense on it.

I have only seen Bilobata DS-70 bloom and have photographed it, but will need to wait for the others to bloom before I can compare.

-David

Well, the first one is DS-70. the second looks like a DS-70 that was grown in lower light and the third is brevialata.
So:

1. DS-70
2. DS-70?
3. brevialata

Carolyn

Just guessing, but I think the last one is Brevialata.

Nice looking plants!!

Jennifer

Lori: Sorry but I am mostly interested in hoya cuttings. I do appreciate your offers for others but I will happily trade for other Hoyas that I may not have. I was just targeting a few in particular.

I will be sure to post on the Hoya exchange page. I did not know there was one specifically for Hoyas, but I see it now.

Thanks for the advice and feedback :)

I am fortunate that I have 4 Lowes, 4 Wal Marts, and 3 Home Depots within 15 miles of me. Yesterday I toured the indoor plant departments at all the locations and compared the plants.

I am running into a lot of Stripes, Brevaliata, Bilobata, Sulawesi, and Lacunosa varieties at this time. The only Wal Mart with any hoyas had 3 Polyneuras but nothing else. I will say that I ran into mislabeled plants at 3 of the locations. But the majority of the sites and plants were consistently labeled. Especially amongst the Breveliata, Bilobata, and Sulawesi. The Sulawesi in particular cannot be mistaken for the others in person. The name may be wrong but then we would have to say the name is consistently wrong. The hoyas labeled Sulawesi are always very light green cupped leaves at every big box store I go to.

Also at stores that I went to that had both Bilobata and Brevialata... There is a distinct difference when feeling the leaves on these 2. Also there is a slight color variation between the plants on the rack at the store. My Bilobata has been growing in very bright light for the past 1.5 years, so I cannot really compare mine with the Brevialata that I purchased but I did compare with the other plants in the stores and they are different. Probably all three are closely related and will always be subject to much controversy in the hoya world.

Of course I am hoping that I have all different plants.

Here's some pics of some others that i am hoping to swap.

'Rope' Carnosa Compacta

Kentiana

'Chelsea'

Lacunosa

'Stripes' H. Curtsii

'Snowcaps' Lacunosa

'Ruby Sue' Lacunosa

'Variegated Rope'

'Fishtail' Polyneura

'Rubra' Carnosa Variegata

Mixed Pot

I have not photographed 'Royal Flush' yet but she is very pretty and I will add her soon. I did not like Polyneura at first but that one is really growing on me too.

Also here is a picture of a 'KP' that I experimented with this winter. I grew this one in my 40 degree garage all winter and brought it outside in early March. It has been subjected to some extreme temps but still manges to go strong. It is actually growing faster this summer versus last summer. I do not recommend anyone to try this but I was just really wondering why EA says NEVER let these plants drop below 60 degrees. I suspect it is optimal to have these plants in higher temps but not 100% necessary.

Thanks for looking :)

Nice plants Peanut.

Hoyas run the range from hot humid tropical lowland habitats to cool/cold mountain ranges where temperatures are quite low at nigh. 40 degrees is still pretty cold for a Hoya but Hoya carnosa is a tough plant that does grow in areas that are cold during the winter. The 60 degree low is for tropicals and some true hot/warm growers will suffer if they go much colder especially if they are wet. If you like cool growers there are many that will do very well and flower during the cooler months, Hoya longiflora and shepherdii and linearis are a few that come to mind.

If you look at the link and scroll down a bit you can see what temperature these different habitats experience due to changes in elevation. The page is for orchid species but Hoyas grow right along side orchids. Finding collection data for Hoyas is hard but there are a few Hoya books (scientific publications) out there that give elevation and habitat descriptions. Rainbow Gardens Books used to carry Hoyas of North Eastern New Guinea and it is full of useful info.

Mike

Here is a link that might be useful: Orchid Species Photos

The 2 exact plants that I saw in Lowes but with 2 different names were identical to the second photo in the first set posted.

Peanut it sounds like your area is similar to where I live. I can leave my driveway right now and within 1 hour I can be in any one of the following stores

3:: Home Depot
4:: Lowe's
5:: Wal-marts and #6 will be open sometime in Nov.Bad thing about the Wal-marts though is that the first 3 are all in a straight line and all within 8-10 minutes of each other and the funny thing is that they all stay busy.

By the way all of your plants are awesome!!

David

Peanut, GREAT hoyas...So big and healthy! Thanks for the pictures!

Thanks for the comments. They mean a lot coming from all of you :) Here is a pic of the 'Royal Flush'. She is a beaut!!!

OT pic - Here's a dat that I am growing coming into flower :) Can you tell I am a little excited :) lol

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-David

I Love Daturas and used to have five or six different species and various colour forms when I had a garden. Do you grow any others?

Nice Hoya lacanosa 'Royal Flush', what beautiful leaves.

Mike

Very nice plants, but that last speckled Lacunosa looks like 'Snowcap' to me. I thought Lacunosa 'royal flush' had those young leaves in burgundy.

Hi PG, I think that is the Royal flush...not all of them have the burgundy leaves, I think it usually appears on new growths when they get very bright light usually. The biggest tale tell for me are the vines. If you look at her picture above of 'snow caps' the vines are lighter green...yet the 'royal flush' have the darker green vines.Just a guess so I'm not positive.

Mine is grown in very bright light...I do ocassionaly get some burgundy/reddish leaves.
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One thing you can do David, is give it lots of bright light
(not direct sun) and see of any of the new growths come out burgundy/reddish...that might be your best confirmation.

Thanks Pug, I hadn't realized that difference, helpful of you.

Yeah, that first Lacunosa is gigantic, wow!!!

Peanut -- they all look really healthy, I'd say your off to a GREAT start!!

Peanut, my hoyas have grown up my Myoporum tree to the point I couldn't move them if I wanted. Three years ago it got down to 29* three nights in a row and I've NEVER lost a hoya that was acclimated to outside yet.

My windows are small and not much light, all plants are outside.

Nice Datura, growing the same in my Purple and Orange bed.

Lovely, well grown plants!!! Hope to see more pix as they bloom!