Forgot to add, I also have a rose of sharon next to that bed, it is smallish now, but I left room for it to grow full size.

I think Butterflies and Hummingbirds like different plants. Butterflies like flat plants they can land on and hummers like tubular flowers. Hummingbirds do like Rose of Sharon. I have 3 of the pinkish ones by my front porch, they are on them all the time.

In general, no to the list you provided with the exception of the daylily and possibly the Liatris. The other flowers you mentioned may attract them for an initial investigative visit, but not as a reliable nectar source. However, they are all good for butterflies, with the exception of Daylily.

BN

Hummingbirds as a general rule prefer tubular and trumpet shaped flowers such as salvias, agastaches, coral bells, native columbine, small red morning glories, cypress vine, cardinal climber, Cardinal flower, coral honey suckle, crossvine, Trumpet Creaper, etc.

Penny