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Landscaping Advice Anyone?

15 years ago

I have a section of my backyard that is between my house and fence and is dominated by a large oak tree. Between the tree and the house virtually no sunlight gets to this section so grass refuses to grow and I am left with a large dirt patch, about 20 by 20. I've tried all sorts of St. Augustine grass to no avail.

Any ideas on what I might plant to cover up this area? Groudcover, etc.? I plan on putting a brick path in for a walkway but I do need to walk through the area on occasion so shrubs, bushes probably won't work. See below for a rather un-artistic diagram. The best idea gets a visit from Santa bearing a new Mercedes (LOL).

Comments (17)

  • 15 years ago

    If you just want a ground cover that you can occasionally walk on then maybe you plant sunshine mimosa or perennial peanut. As ground covers go they grow fast, can be mowed on the (4") setting without harm, but they both bloom better in sun. Just a thought. Is that what type of cover you were thinking.
    Zoozue

  • 15 years ago

    That might work as long as they will grow in shade; that has been the problem with grass.

  • 15 years ago

    Rocks, bromeliads, stepping stones, and then various accent plants that grow in the shade: ZZ Plant is a good one, various Calathea and Aroids.

  • 15 years ago

    Billbrandi,

    What about ferns. Don't know how cold you get. I really like macho or fishtail ferns under my oaks. They grow fast, but are pretty easy to pull up if they get too out of control and won't hurt the tree. Aspidistra is great for deep shade and drought too, but it grows very slowly until it gets established. Bromeliads of course, and pots with shade-loving things. Palm grass also does well. Please take into account zones, because some of this stuff might not take your cold. I know aspidistra will, though. Sounds like a great tree.

    Anna

  • 15 years ago

    Will hosta grow in Florida? I always had many different hosta plants around my shade trees up north. I've just never tried them here yet.

    Lou

  • 15 years ago

    I second fawnridge and anna. Where exactly are you?

    Forget hostas. We all wish!

  • 15 years ago

    The variegated Sunhosta will grow in all of Florida.

    Southern growers in Zones 10a and 10b can grow SunHosta year around.
    Plants will bloom in April if planted in the fall.
    Hardiness: Zones 4-10.
    Light: Full sun to partial sun.

    Lou

  • 15 years ago

    I'm in the Seminole/St. Pete area. Thanks all for commenting and the help. I'll post pictures once I decide.

  • 15 years ago

    Oh, SunHosta, I like it! Now if only we could get the big box stores and local nurseries to carry it.

  • 15 years ago

    Bromeliads, ferns, peace lily, anthuriums, Chamaedorea metallica, cast iron plants, peacock ginger, dancing lady ginger..you are near me & I grow all these successfully.

    Good luck on your project. I yearn for more shade! You are blessed actually.

  • 15 years ago

    Asiatic Jasmine is a beautiful groundcover and it grows in the shade.

    Darlene

  • 15 years ago

    Sounds exactly like my backyard

    I have:
    Around the trunk of the oak:
    1. Begonias..all kinds
    2. Yellow walking iris
    3. Peace lilies
    4. Gingers
    5. Caladiums

    I have a number of walkways and further away from the trunk:
    1. Camelias
    2. Ferns - Boston ferns, etc
    3. Two big Tree Ferns, underplanted with more caladiums and begonias
    4. A few hydrangeas
    5. More gingers
    6. Elephant ears, underplanted with caladiums (oh yes, I love caladiums)
    7. My cymbidiums (orchids) in clay pots

    Here and there - great color for shade:
    1. Tradescantia zebrina
    2. Setcreasea pallida
    3. Oyster plants - love these!

    Lots of possibilities!

  • 15 years ago

    A few random older pictures from my backyard

    My big Oak

    From Backyard Spring 2009

    Under the oak - old pictures

    Sunnier spots with diffused light are pefect for amaryllis

    From Backyard Spring 2009

    and giant crinum. You can see treefern in the back, and an elephant ear plant {{gwi:986759}}From Our Yard Fall 2008

    Part shade, right outside the perimiter of the oak's shade
    Forgot impatients! They are wonderful for shady spots...Crinums can take some shade and will still bloom

    From Backyard Spring 2008

    Hard to see what is going on here - oak trunk is actually pretty close to the walkway (bricks are one side of the walkway) Our oak is huge and there are plenty of areas of diffused light under it. There is a begonia,and ginger along the walkway

    From Backyard Spring 2008

  • 15 years ago

    Olya - the moss in the oak tree reminds me of the Florida I grew up in. As a kid, I learned that you can use moss, water and sand to clean dishes when camping.

    Some great ideas.....now if only this chilly weather would go away I could get started.

  • 15 years ago

    WOW!!! Olya, I am keeping your wonderful ideas for the future, when my oaks trees in the front yard grow a little bit, I can aspire to have some of the beauty that you have.

    Bill, when you do your landscape, I want to see the results! A little piece of history in my neighborhood is that is called Oakland because the giant oaks covered with moss, when we saw it for the first time we fell in love with it, they had an article in the local paper that the original people living here stood out of their houses and did not let the developers cut their trees and now thanks to them we all all enjoy their beauty.

    Silvia

  • 15 years ago

    Olya, your list was so much more complete than mine- and illustrated to boot! Beautiful photos.

    One more that I thought of that I feel are such underused plants are cycads- in particular, dioon spinulosum. I just love these and they do well under oaks. They are getting a little easier to find- especially in spring.

    Billbrandi do please show us when you finish!

    Silvia, I like your story.

    Anna

  • 15 years ago

    After looking at the pictures I just couldn't stand it any longer... I just had to buy some Caladiums for spring planting.

    Toasted Bronze

    Thai Red

    Purple Majesty

    Candy Cane

    Dark Chocolate

    Lou

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