Long time lurker here, thought I'd join because one of my Hoyas, sold to me as H. bicolor but Christine Burton thinks is more likely H. incrassate, set seed over the summer--the pods just popped open a few days ago and even after planting a whole flat myself I still have a bunch left....so, if anyone would like to send me their address I would be happy to mail you some seeds...The seeds are most likely self-pollenated, but I did have an H. motoskei and a carnosa blooming at the same time, so who knows?