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Hosta Genealogy

14 years ago

Gold Standard

Which sported to Captain Kirk

Which sported to Vulcan

They all are good growers in our gardens. Show us some of your hosta family trees.

Gesila

Comments (26)

  • 14 years ago

    Ahhh, good one, Gesila. Just in case there are new folks out there who do not know about this website where the sports of different plants are tracked, or the genealogy of hosta is charted, I'll link it below.

    Once at the page, look in the right hand side for the SPORTS.
    Scroll the drop down list and see which hosta have one, two or even 60 sports in their family trees. You'd be surprised...
    much better than watching paint dry to explore the Sports!

    Here is a link that might be useful: MyHostas

  • 14 years ago

    Squash Casserole

    Yesterday's Memories - Sport of Squash Casserole

    Key Lime Pie - Sport of Squash Casserole

    Paul

  • 14 years ago

    Gesila,

    What's interesting about the Gold Standard Geneaology is that it really starts with a plain green Hosta fortunei Hyacynthiana. Where that came from no one knows.

    As for Squash Casserole, how do you get a large ruffled Hosta like that from two ordinary plants like Hirao Elite and August Moon?

    It's a testament to the instability and remarkable diversity of the Hosta gene pool.

    Steve

  • 14 years ago

    Paul, I really love the picture of Yesterday's Memories with the red and yellow daylily blooms. What a great combination of greens and the flowers serving as foils not competing.

    And, Steve, I did not realize that Gold Standard stemmed from fortunei Hyacinthina, but I do have two of the hyacinthinas. They do not even look like each other, could not prove it by me they are related. Here they are side by side, from different nurseries:

    As you say, it is fascinating the diversity in the gene pool.

  • 14 years ago

    I know those aren't hemerocallis(daylily)... they have to be some sort of asiatic....they don't look tall enough to be oriental...
    John

  • 14 years ago

    The lilies are Asiatic - Tiny Bee (yellow) and Tiny Hope (deep red). The 'Tiny' series are much shorter and thus seem to fit well with hostas.

    Paul

  • 14 years ago

    Apparently you don't have Red Leaf Lily beetle in Minnesota. Yet.

    Steve

  • 14 years ago

    Yeah I have Tiny Dino... Its the bright orange... I like them well
    John

  • 14 years ago

    moccasinlanding, you might just have helped me ID my NOIDS!! I think my overzelous green NOIDS I had to split and move because they were totally overtaking the bed they were in are fortunei Hyacinthina. The only thing throwing me off is the fact that mine are throwing up scapes right now...and most listings say these are later bloomers.

    My NOIDS
    {{gwi:1018780}}

  • 14 years ago

    When I scanned back through the photos, I realized I mis spoke about the lilies. NOT hemerocallis. I was noticing color and not leaf growth.

  • 14 years ago

    Steve,

    I used to be plagued with Red Leaf Lilly Beetles until I learned that the biggest problem is they generate from eggs in the ground. Spraying the beetles on the leaves of the lily is an exercise in frustration as they quickly regenerate in the soil.

    Early application of Bayer Systemic has taken care of the Red Leaf Beetle problem for me.

    Jon

  • 14 years ago

    Jon,

    Which Bayer Systematic? I just 'googled' it and there are a few different types. I am going to see if I can get some shipped to Canada as we have a ban in Ontario.

    Thanks,
    Paula

  • 14 years ago

    Paula,

    I used the 2 in 1 Systemic Rose and Flower Care; Bayer Advanced. It is a granular systemic. It eliminated all the red beetles.

    I tried a concentrated liquid, generic, systemic in early Spring to try and stop gypsy moths on my trees. It seemed to have zero effect on the moths. I don't know about any other brand; but I do know the Bayer works very well. I got it at Home Depot, so I don't think it is too hard to find.

    Jon

  • 14 years ago

    Meant to say Winter Moths, not Gypsy Moths.

    Jon

  • 14 years ago

    I used soapy water to kill the red beetles.

  • 14 years ago

    Giesla,

    Soapy water or horticultural oil will kill them, but they would be back in a couple of days on my oriental lillies. One treatment with the Bayer Systemic and they did not come back all season.

    Jon

  • 14 years ago

    I have the Bayer Systemic for Roses etc, and it has the Merit in it. I also got some of the Natria brand insecticidal soap that Bayer makes, and their iron phosphate slug baits. All the chemical mix I had going on in the garden early in the year, who knows what actually controlled stuff. But I must get to it again, since that 20 inches of rain washed everything away.

    I stopped putting the slug baits inside the pots. Why? Because when they deteriorate, they make a black dust which puffs up when I apply water to the container. Not sure what the decomposition product is for the iron phosphate slug baits. I probably do not need to be breathing it.

    One thing I always do when I find tree leaves fallen into my containers, is to pick them up and look beneath them. And, I pick up the pot itself. If there is anything under the pot, I give em a whiff of the diatomaceous earth, and it seems very effective on some of the multilegged dudes, not silverfish, but something present in substantial numbers. I think they like to go up the drain holes of the pots.

    Gesila, when you say you used soapy water to kill the beetles, was it the Safer soap? Or, perhaps liquid dish soap? I've heard that the Dawn detergent applied to a cotton ball and placed over a tick embedded on your skin will make it turn loose and it will be removed by the cotton ball. Dawn is good stuff--cleaned up the poor shore birds after the BP oil spill too.

  • 14 years ago

    I like the progeny from 'Gold Standard' and 'Squach Casserole'

    'Halcyon' has been a prolific parent. I bought the following hostas before I knew they had excellent genes.
    Bix Blues
    Blue Ivory
    Canadian Blue
    El Nino
    First frost
    Gay blade
    June
    Paradise Joyce
    Sleeping Beauty.

    I bought 'Indigo' because I knew that it was related to 'Halcyon'. Unfortunately my 'Indigo' is not recognizable because he was stepped on. I'd like to see pictures of 'Halcyon's other offspring if you have some.

    Here's 'Halcyon' with 'June' in front.

  • 14 years ago

    'Bix Blues'

  • 14 years ago

    'Blue Ivory'

  • 14 years ago

    Canadian Blue' has been a faster grower for me than its parent.

  • 14 years ago

    "El Nino' has started to sport several white leaves. Is this a sign of something?

  • 14 years ago

    'First Frost'

  • 14 years ago

    'Gay Blade'

  • 14 years ago

    'Paradise Joyce'

  • 14 years ago

    'Sleeping Beauty'. I'd like to see some pictures of the other hostas originating from 'Halcyon'.

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