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Shrinking Hostas??

19 years ago

This year I've lost several hostas to an incredible shrinking problem. Several plants are now completely gone, while a couple are simply smaller than when they were planted, maybe as much as two years before. The plants in the same bed, right beside these guys, are all doing well. The shrinking plants all have smaller leaves even if they have an increase in the number of eyes, and then in time these leaves begin to disappear. Granted, that some of the plants are on the list of potentially HVX plants, but I've never read of a plant just kind of fading away due to HVX,

Sagae and Orange Marmalade were dug up while a little green still showed, roots washed of, and replanted in a potting mix in pots. They seem to be making a comeback. But two still in the ground: Patriot is shrinking, and Gold Standard has many, but very small leaves.

Maybe the isolation pot is the answer for nursing these guys back to heath. I'm afraid that 5 others are gone forever though.

Any suggestions?

John

Comments (9)

  • 19 years ago

    What trees, etc. are they planted under? You're in a warm zone, how much/often do you water? Do you have any pictures of what's left?

    Char

  • 19 years ago

    what trees are they planted under?

    what is your watering regimen???

    do they get the requisite dormancy period in your zone 8???

    ken

  • 19 years ago

    Thanks for the responses. Good questions. Some are planted under a Bradford Pear tree, pretty much full shade; while others are planted under a large pine tree and in some canna lilies. Soil is about 6.5 ph and was amended three years ago with peat, potting mix, and Black Kow. Osmocote has been added to the beds about once a year. I have a soaker hose snaking through all beds which gets connected several times a week. Plus, the lawn irrigation system soaks them from the top twice a week. The beds never seem to be dry.
    As to dormancy, the zone is 7b to 8 and we do have some freezing temps during the short, 2 month winter. The hostas certainly disappear late Fall to early Winter and don't show up again until April. I'm concerned with 5 to 10 plants out of 80+, the others seem pretty happy. As to whats left, basically they are minature plants whose leaves just seem to fall off or otherwise disappear. Great Expectation went to bed last year as a normal leafed plant, woke up this Spring as a small leafed fellow (1-2 inch leaf length) and finally just disappeared. The soil in general is sand with loam and sticky black mud mixed in. Seems to grow other stuff pretty well although unammended it does hold water when it finally does get wet. I'm mystified.
    John

  • 19 years ago

    I think it has to be shade and maybe root competitation.

  • 19 years ago

    What you are describing happened in my yard this year to two of my hosta. Hosta Black Hills had leaves 16 inches across last year. This year it was pushed slightly out of the ground - I think by tree roots - there were only 4 eyes last year but this year there is at least 12 - but the leaves are about the size of a silver dollar. Also, there was a new tree planted 2 years ago that has grown - consequently the added shade has all but eliminated any chance of light ever toughing a couple of the hosta at the back of that bed... I thought that was a good thing but I am re-thinking that now... I don't know if any of this is helpful but something you can compare to your own plants.
    Thanks, Dawn

  • 19 years ago

    What can cause shrinking hosta?

    voles eating the roots
    drought (usually from the previous year)
    winter rot
    winter heave
    root competition

    and probably more, but this is what I can think of this early in the morning...

  • 19 years ago

    If you have trees sucking up all the water there are barriers you can use to block their roots from steeling all of your water. U do water often right,like twice a week?

    Use Vole Block or Perma Till.

  • 19 years ago

    Are they getting enough sunlight?

  • 19 years ago

    Wow, great info. I do water often, at least every other day either by soaker or lawn irrigation. Root competition could be an answer but plants right beside the sick ones seem to do O.K. Shade, OTOH, could be a problem since under the tree is quite a bit of shade. Maybe there are hostas that need more sun than others, although I don't really have the deep shade one experiences with heavily wooded lots. Generally it is more of a dappled shade, but certainly not dark shade.
    I have dug up and potted a couple of the sick ones in hopes that they will recover in ICU conditions. So far they have perked up, which says a lot about their soil or sun exposure, doesn't it.
    John