I think the red is Enchantment but could be AMERICA. The orange may be ECHO

Thanks for your help Lilium Guy. I am sure the red one is Emchantment - the real colour is more orange than the picture shows. But I can't find any reference to either AMERICA or ECHO. Can you provide any more info. or links on these? Thanks.

The link goes to the Lily Register site. As you'll see from the picture your red is a little different from America.

Here is a link that might be useful: Lily Register

Thnks for you reference to the Lily Register, Kayman, but I did not find anything there, however, tonight I decided to google 'blowl type' lilies, since I realize that was unique about it (as well as the white cottony down covering the buds) and I FOUND IT!! It is Lilium Orange X Triumph, an Asiatic Hybrid-clone. Here is the description:

A) Lilium Orange x Triumph (Asiatic Hybrid-clone) An old favourite, Though now quite rarely seen. Early flowering light orange bowl shaped flowers shading to red at tips. The growing points and buds are often covered in a white cotton like down which is believed to be a natural defence to discourage greenfly. Ht.3ft E.June to July

One more off the books!! Thank you.
Northerner.