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Topher, two questions: 1) are they getting direct sun 2) Have you re-potted them, their roots know no bounds and the will excell when they are over-potted and have planty of space for their roots. mid 60 + sun should mean super fast growth.
Topher hi there. My batch of Washy R seedlings were planted on 23rd Nov and sprouted the following week or thereabouts. They are just beginning to grow their second spear, on some it's around one inch in length, the main spear being 7inches long. What kind of size has yours got too as I'm thinking they could have been planted/sprouted at a similar time? Josh also planted some at a similar time to myself...wonder if his have the second leaf yet?? Have mine in a south facing window to get whatever sun they can catch. No chance of outdoors as temps are v cold and we have snow forecast. Central heating comes on at 5pm so am trying to give them all the heat and light possible. Go under wall light and on trop fish tank for warmth in evening as window cill gets chilly then. Plan to re-pot at weekend as only in 3in pots at present...but looking good so far! Got a pic? Gill.
....and here's 4 of mine so far! They have a little darker coloured 'tube like growth' where they leaf sprouts from, should this be above soil level, mine are at the moment? Noticed the leaves are quite soft, even grass-like in texture and no where near as tough as the Canary Island Date I germinated in 2004, is this normal? Did a re-pot yesterday to give them a bit more room, rootball coming along nicely although it didn't hold onto the compost very well whilst repotting as it is very open so most of it dropped off, hopefully they will settle in and be ok. Can't wait for those divided leaves...my first fan palm. Have a some more ??'s.... yet again..... 1. Are you feeding yours yet? 2. In your first post you asked about when will the WR split into 2. Does the seedling grow a leaf that splits into 2 parts before a fan shaped leaf grows as I've never grown/had a fan-palm before and I can't recall what my 2 feather palms, the CIDP and Ph D grew like. Thanks once again! Gill.
From my experience with these (and I have a bit) as seedlings they LOVE water. It is hard to over water them, and even more bright Sun. Greenclaws looks like his/hers are in the PERFECT inside spot for seedlings. Now also what Greenclaws has done well is that they are planted in clear cups. Now with this, you need to watch the roots. As soon as they start getting clumped at the bottom, pot up a size. It is amazing the growth you will get with these if you give them room to grow. I have seen these from seedling to split leaf in 5 months in a gallon pot. I usually like to keep my palms rootbound, but not these. Hope this helps.
TrachyH and FloridaW, thanks for the responses...and encouragement! I am really finding palm growing and other trops a real addiction these days. Ok, no additional food just yet. Will give them all the sun/heat/light possible. This is far the best spot in the house for them. I used the clear yoghurt pots as they have a longer length compared to width, thought the seedlings would have been lost in a regular size proper plant pot of a similar height. Now realise you all seem to vastly overpot your WR's for optimum growth. Will keep a close eye on the roots reaching the bottom and searching for new compost and move up into ordinary pots as soon as needed. Meantime, will look forward to those split leaves in 5-6 months do you reckon? Will complain to you bitterly if not!
Oh...FloridaB...I am definately of the female variety BTW! Cheers and thanks again! Gill/Gillian pronounced with a 'J'
I find 'wild/volunteer' washingtonias begin to show leaf seration at about 5 or 6 leaves. But these are in-ground seedling and are much more robust, with even the first stap leaves over a foot long, and the serating ones nearing a foot and a half.
Topher, hello again. Yes that was what I thought you meant but seems no one actually picked up on it...perhaps because I went on to ask other ??'s so I am sorry if it appears that my post hi-jacked your thread. I apologise : ¬ ) My seedlings as I said are also around 2 months old, similar age to yours, and the second leaves have now arrived on most of them. They are very hard to spot at first, I missed them till they were at least half inch long as the tips are very fine and lie close to the first leaf...take a close look you should see some very soon..hope so! Good luck, Gill.
topher very few of my palms have done anything with this cloudy if not murky winter,my robustas may have put 1 strap out this whole winter if that!however one of my filiferas has put out (its first)3 fans already,if we ever get some sun and 40degree weather(my place usually hits 70s inside-with sun)they should blast off,also I think once they put out that first leaf or two they get into some serious root growth!maybe you could turn them upside down!I have looked at a few of my plants and thought to tell them-grow are die!
Topher, Sorry you don't have a lot of growth dude. Not sure what to say. I keep mine basically right up against the window and keep my compact fluorescents shining on them 12-16 hrs a day. They showed above the soil the last week of December and most of them are starting their second strap leaf now. Try more heat and light. If that doesn't work try more heat and light. You get where I'm going with this. Also a little more water with more heat and light. I kept mine on the dry side for a while but when they slowed down I watered them more and they took off again. I'm using the same size pot as you so try this. Full sun with supplemented light at night, 75f or above, water about 5 cups of water (all at once) every 3-4 days. I hope this helps. Let me know how it works. Heres 2 pictures of my biggest one.
Look'in good,75f seems to be temp that wakes up these tropical plants,I beleive I recall hearing(in a horticulture class) that tropical plant growth increases exponentially with every 10 degree rise in temp,(not sure if thats C or F lets pretend its F more fun)probably C so if you realllllllyyyyy want to see some growth find somewhere in your house thats warmer,(not next to direct forced air heat to drying)I have a few(more than a few) plants I wish would grow already!!!!!!might be a fun experiment,and would keep us busy until the d... weather breaks! Cheers
mmmhhhh, nice progress there Josh. Looks like yours have overtaken mine in the growth stakes. My second leaves are possibly 2inches or so. No way can I keep mine in temps near to 75F, even with lights on them, basic air temp too cool in general, at this time of year anyway, in the g/h in summer yes, but not at present. G/h heated just to give frost free temps, costs way too much for fuel here...like everything else. Reckoned as they were easy to sprout with starting them in Dec I would have a bit of a head start so come spring I could stand a chance of getting some good growth on them. They will have to accept what I can give them for now though and hope things warm up this year. Yesterday was just right, wall to wall sun and through the windows it was a lovely spot for them, today its grey and cloudy, no hint of the sun. Nevertheless, it's great fun seeing what you can achieve under less than ideal conditions. I'm more than happy with the way things are going...so that's ok isn't it!? Happy growing and keep us posted : ¬ ) Gill.
Topher, sorry for my late response, but I have a Filifera seedling, about 11" tall, that started pushing above the soil line around Thanksgiving. Just about a week ago, I noticed the new leaf pushing up, so it took mine about 2 1/2 months, although mine is a Filifera, so I technically should have slightly slower growth. I put it directly on a heat vent at night, and in a south facing window sill during the day. If I used a heat mat and supplemental lighting, I'm sure growth would've been a lot faster. So be patient, and I'm sure you'll see that second strap leaf pushing up.
islandbreeze, I thought my robustas would blow everything away this winter but more than really anything except the bananas(yunnan,basjoo,musa dwarf and rowe red)my half dozen or so filifera seedlings have doubled or tripled everything elses growth,we had (about awek ago)a good 10 out of 14 days with lots of sun and the palms looked like they were ready to go to work,but now we have returned to the murky weather where 10 -12 of 14 days are cloudy, (like it was in Dec-and early Jan,) boy these last few weeks of winter can be the hardest!
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