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Coconut Palm in England?

19 years ago

Hi I live in South West england and would love to grow a coconut palm. My old coconut palm recently died after the base of the plant rotted :'(. I have many questions:

1) Can I grow it from a grocery coconut?

2)If I get hold of a coco seedling then is it possible to keep it outside in winter with underground heating cables, a thick fleece at the base and have it wrapped with lots of clear plastic?

I know question 2 sounds silly but I think if I keep the roots warm and the foliage over 1 degrees Celcius then It may just survive in winter. What do you think?

Comments (29)

  • 19 years ago

    I think my setup is pushing the boundaries already considering that coconut palms are not intended to survive the semi-arid climate of Southern California. In addition, IÂm not sure if a heat cable would work well in the ground, they are best when used in the confined area of a planter.

    It is rare for a coconut to sprout after the husk (mesocarp) has been removed, but you can purchase a sprouted one on-line for a reasonable price.

    YouÂre in good company here, we like to attempt what weÂre told wonÂt work.

    Good luck.

  • 19 years ago

    i just read a thread on Palmtalk on this very subject. a guy sprouted one after soaking it in water over night before planting it somewhere warm then wrapping in plastic for insulation and humidity. it took a while but he posted progress pics,which was very cool to see!

  • 19 years ago

    No way it's going to make it through winter outside. Short of building a grenhouse around it and keeping it a steady 70 (sorry I'm not sure how that translates to celsius). Keep it indoors for the winter in the warmest sunniest location in the house. Keeping the foliage just above freezing will kill it very quickly, no matter how warm you keep the roots.

  • 19 years ago

    yes well unless you live in the tropics its an indoor or conservatory plant only,but as they are very slow growing they are worth a shot and everyone should try one. i live in the UK but i want to try one!

  • 19 years ago

    Thanks everyone. Could i wrap soil heating cables around the palm to keep the temps around 15-20 degrees C? Greenlarry, do you have the URL of that thread? One day, I will find a way!
    Thanks

  • 19 years ago

    rhizophora, herd's the URL. I had to copy it down manually as i'm using my cell phone rather than my PC. try the link or go to palmtalk.org,click on the IPS FORUM link and then click SOILS,FERTILIZERS,PESTS &PROBLEMS;SEED GERMINATION >> COCOS NUCIFERA

    Here is a link that might be useful: growing a coconut

  • 19 years ago

    oops the actual thread is called Germinating supermarket coconuts posted by a guy whose username is 'Tropico'

  • 19 years ago

    Thanks. I have found this thread to be useful. How long exactly does it take a coconut to germinate?

  • 19 years ago

    The article i read said about 2 to 3 months.....

  • 19 years ago

    well in the article by Tropico he notes germination started after 11 days,which is pretty amazing!

  • 19 years ago

    I guess it could it depends on how warm the seed is.. i
    would imagine.....

    Andy Andy will know.......

  • 19 years ago

    Here it is after 17 days,button just peeking out(it started after 11 days but not easy to see)

    At T+85 days there was a leaf spike starting to open.
    I gotta try this!

    Here is a link that might be useful:

  • 19 years ago

    Wow !!

    That's pretty impressive !

  • 19 years ago

    I've never actually germinated a coconut. All of mine were small seedlings when I got them. My understanding is you need at least a steady 75-80. I would think that if you could keep it a steady 85 it would really spead up the process.

  • 19 years ago

    It would save a lot of money to grow cocos nucifera from grocery coconuts so I may germinate them instead of buying sprouted coconuts. So I think my house could be filled with sprouting coconuts soon!

  • 19 years ago

    you're right there rhizo,i have noticed how expensive coconut palms can be! BTW folks,is there a way of telling,while in the store, if the 'nut' is fresh and viable or not?

  • 19 years ago

    In some places coconut palm seedlings were £7.99! Trebrown nurseries can sprout you a coconut and grow it for you if you ask them. Im also getting a dragonfruit tonight so I can grow the seeds.
    Good luck everyone!

    Here is a link that might be useful: Trebrown Nurseries

  • 19 years ago

    rhizo, I believe dragon fruit comes from a tropical cactus. (looks a bit like Aporocactus with thicker stems)
    good luck with it

  • 19 years ago

    the cactus looks like an oversized schlumberga! If kept right, it should bloom in 2 years but probably 3-4 in the country. The flowers are amazing. Im also growing an amorphophallus titanum, a monstera deliciosa from a leaf cutting, papaya from seed, chaemodorea elegans, gunnera manicata (temporary houseplant) and a clementine i germinated from an orange pip.

  • 19 years ago

    oh monstera is one of my favourite house plants, must get another someday.
    i also have an orange from a pip,they're quite slow growing tho,tend to have growth spurts then suddenly stop growing,weird. would love one of those amorphophallus too!

  • 19 years ago

    My Dragonfuit GERMINATED! It only took 3 days! Wow. On this website theirs took a few weeks! My papaya has had a growth spurt as well. I looked in the supermarket at the coconuts but the main germination pore was very hard when I pressed it and they had very little coconut milk. I might get my coconuts from http://www.spicesofindia.co.uk/acatalog/Fresh-Coconuts.html. The nuts still have lots of husk on!
    Good luck!

  • 19 years ago

    germinating a coconut...with the husk right?

  • 19 years ago

    We're trying to germinate it without the husk. It can be done! I havent got yet because they all failed the paperclip test.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Proof

  • 19 years ago

    I think it would germinate even quicker, too!

  • 19 years ago

    whats the paperclip test?

  • 19 years ago

    Its to see if the coconut is viable for germination. If the paperclip penetrates the big germination pore easily, the coconut is viable for germination (see link). Also, I was just searching on the web and found that you can separate the embryo from the coconut and grow it seperately from the 'meat' and coconut 'milk'.
    http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&rls=GGLR,GGLR:2006-03,GGLR:en&sa=N&resnum=0amp;q=coconut%20embryo&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&tab=wi

    Here is a link that might be useful: Diagram of coconut seed and info on germination

  • 19 years ago

    interesting link there!

  • 19 years ago

    I've bought two viable coconuts and only 1 has changed after 2 weeks. Theyre both in a propagator at a constant temp.

  • 5 years ago


    It can be done with supermarket dehusked coconut.. Warmth and humidity are the trick

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