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jelly palm

16 years ago

i have a jelly palm that i was considering planting in the ground this spring. question is, if i sale this house in a couple years, is it a bad idea to dig it up and take it with me? i have heard that some palms do not live if you dig them up and move them. should i just keep it in a pot?

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  • 16 years ago

    How big is the palm? You can easily move a small to mid sized palm without trauma. The only palm that I know of that really should not be moved is Bismarkia. But if you're really considering selling, I would just grow it containerized an be done with it. They do very well in containers. P.S., I'm also planting some in the Spring.

  • 16 years ago

    If you arent planning on moving in the near future I say plant it. If it gets to a really nice sized you can just hire a professional, and maybe even a crane to dig it up and move it. Then if you move to another location with a similar climate (Not that cold, but naturally too cold for these palms) then you can plant it in early april and give it some really good soil and really good protection the first 2 years and then it will be established again. If you move to somewhere warmr the deep south plant it in early spring ans it should be fine once winter comes as long as a hurricane doesnt come. The west coast also has a great climate for these palms.

    Most palms dont mine being transplanted, as long as they are able to have time to recover. Sabals are probably the best palms to dig up, and I agree that as far as common palms go, bismakias are the worst to get to dig up well. I hear sabal minors arent so crazy about being dig up either if they lose a lot of roots.
    Good luck!

  • 16 years ago

    my jelly palm is about 4 feet tall. would like to plant it if it is at all possible to dig back up in future. it would probably be 3 years or longer before i moved (if i do). i am so ready for spring!! i have got the fever really bad!! ha ha would love seeing any pics of yall's jelly palms if you got 'em!! thanks!!

  • 16 years ago

    Here is my pindo and one of my trachys.

  • 16 years ago

    I would keep it in a pot if you are thinking of moving in a few years, if you do not allow it to get pot bound it will rocket when you plant it in its permanent home.

    I did something similar about 5 years ago and planted a butia capitata in my parents garden, they then decided to move at the same time as me fortunatly so i planted it in the front garden of my new house, however when i dug it up the roots were extensive even after just 2 years, i dug an enormous rootball as to not damage the roots too much but this was unavoidable even though i had to use a dustbin as the pot!!!

    3 years later if i compare a similar size palm that was pot grown and the 'dug' palm the difference is vast.

    Coltrane, your 2 palms are immaculate! Well done. What other gems are you hiding from us?

  • 16 years ago

    here is a pic of the potted pindo. i paid $50 for it. i waited all summer for them to put it on clearance...originally around $300 dollars. good deal? for scale, there are 2 brown rain barrels behind it.

  • 16 years ago

    300 dollars is a complete rip off. I dont know where you buy your palms but I paid 20 bucks for the one you see in the pic I posted. Ill be happy to give you the name of the nursery (located in north Mississippi), if your interested.

  • 16 years ago

    300 dollars is definitely a rip off. 50 dollars is pretty much the right price. In the south where they grow well they are about half that price, but 50 isnt bad by you. Yours is pretty big already, I dont know how much growth it would get in a pot within 3 years time, but in the ground it would be pretty big by then.
    If you plan on putting it in the ground in hopes of moving it when you move, then you should try to keep it in an open area so you can get most of the roots. It would be a very extensive root system by then, but with lots of time, maybe a machine, it can be done.

    Coltrane...
    Great price for your pindo, how much did you get your windmill palm for? That looks really nice too. Your palms are very symetrical looking, they both look very healthy and happy!

    Good luck!

  • 16 years ago

    Thanks, I appreciate the compliments. I paid 30 dollars for that windmill. Theres a wholesale nursery about and hour from here that has great prices. Its family operated on about 20 acres, open to the public.

  • 16 years ago

    If you have the bug to plant it, I would if moving in 3 years. You can always plant another one or try to dig this one up. However, I expect it could be hard to dig up because they do get large.

  • 16 years ago

    I have been growing pindos for 10yrs now with problems till last winter and this winter.My oldest one is about 4ft of trunk and a overall height of 8ft.I planted two 3 gallon pindos this past may.I have the worst damage on the oldest one,It has alot of black on the fronds and some of the tips are completely fried.The new growth looks bad to,some are void of any color.I never seen damage on it this bad even last winter when we got down to 8* for two nights.The other 2 I planted last spring has some black on a couple of fronds and I wrapped them up good.I dident see the black on the fronds till after it rained Sat.Before the rain they just showed a little spotting on the fronds.It has stayed above freezing since I unwrapped them last week,today's high is 57*and tomorrow it will be 60*with lows in the 40's,it gonna be that all this week.My Trachy shows no damage what so ever.Neither do two blue and one green form of the Med's show any.For 8yrs the oldest pindo grew and looked wonderful and survived winters with no damage,and no protection.Ive seen it in past winters laid completely to the ground from snow and Ice and when it melted the fronds poped back up with no damage.I dont know what went wrong,the only thing I did diffrent was mulch it back in summer.I put the mulch about 3" deep to try to help protect it and it seemed to hurt it,when I frist planted it I let the grass grow rite up to it and I never had any problems.Im sure that its partly because the last two winters have been the coldest and longest periods that we dident get above freezing,and mabey the mulch kelp it to wet.Mabey it was a combo of both.What should I do with the blackend fronds,cut them off now,or wait till summer?If I have spear pull should I pour peroxide on the bud?Do you pour it rite out of the bottle,full strength or what?Iv'e had it so long I dont want to loose it.Can anybody please help me?

  • 16 years ago

    If you plant the jelly palm in the yard, another point to consider is that in selling your property, the flora may be considered a part of the real estate that is being sold. The buyer may, therefore, expect to find the _Butia capitata_ his property after the sale is completed.

  • 16 years ago

    butiaman, everything you describe points to keeping them covered and dry in the worst part of winter. I would cover the mulch area as well.

  • 16 years ago

    I never had to do that In the past 9yrs.It seems like all it does now is rain.Well get one sunny day and then It rains for two days and then mabey two days of sun,then a day or two of heavy rain.I bought a liquid copper fungicide today,but I cant use it because it's not a systemic and were suppost to get heavy rain again sunday.My yard never has a chance to dry out!!!Monday after the rain I'm gonna spray all of them good.The big one looks bad.I noticed that some of the new growth is brown,atleast some of the new growth is still green.The oldest fronds are almost all black.I looked up treatment for cold damaged palms.It said not to cut off any fronds that have some green,dowse the whole palm with this copper fungicide.It said to pull out all the damaged new fronds,they wont pull out,is this a good thing?It said to dowse the growing bud with this fungicide.If anybody knows what else might help,please let me know!!To keep it completely dry I would have to build almost a full size greenhouse around it.I still havent figured out why all of them are showing more damage now than after the cold spell,the only thing I would quess Is all the rain we have had after the cold spell.It's strange to that the small pindos dident get near as much damage a the 10yr old one.I just hope I dont loose my big one,it was a very healthy and good looking palm.

  • 16 years ago

    My potted pindo palm had spear pull, I put peroxide (right out of the bottle) and poured some in the crown. So far all the leaves continue to die, and no new leaves are coming. Its looks like the chance for survival is pretty slim, but ill keep on trying until it is absolutely gone. Ironically the one I planted outside is still perfectly green with no spear pull (I checked again today).

    Good luck, they are pretty hardy palms, but seem to handle cold moisture badly.

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