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Help with winter damaged palms!

19 years ago

My robusta is completely defoliated and its spear pulled. Top of trunk is mush but only a could of inches. Should I cut it down to the live part (if their really is any?) now or wait for a real warm up (highs of 30s by Thursday). My windmill has nothing left but freeze dried fronds and the spear pulled but the top of the trunk does not "apear" to be mushy. 1 of my needles has nothing but freeze dried fronds and the spear pulled but the trunk seems ok (damn I just jabbed myself instpecting and it hurts like hell). The other needle's spear pulled but the fronds are more or less ok. They both have suckers which seem ok with no spear pull. My sabals look a little tattered but that was because I was too slow in covering them from an ice storm back in Januray. No spear pull on them, they'll be fine. Based on what I've obsereved I think all will be ok except for the Robusta. I've done the usuals sprayed the cavaties with fungicide and treated with HO. Whichever ones recover will this slow their growth or will they really push out some in an attemt to revover? I would appreciate anyones suggestions.

Andy

Comments (13)

  • 19 years ago

    Andy, my three gallon needle looks good, but my one gallon trachy looks all dry.It is small and I did not exppect much.I dought the long term survival of trachys and robustas where we live. The cold spells go on too long.I have many size trachy backups so I will keep on trying.

  • 19 years ago

    Andy-if I were you, I would cut the robusta down until you see green and there's firm trunk. Also, make sure the base of the trunk is not mushy. If possible, remove some of the oldest boots just to make sure it's firm under them. then spray with fungicide again, cover, but allow air circulation, and turn on a heat source. You'll probably need more than xmas lights to get it into growth mode. I'd try to get it growing right away before its too late. I caught mine too late last year, and by the time I realized what happened, the rot worked its way down the whole trunk. I removed a lot of old boots, only to find every color of mold you can imagine. Don't water it, and when we get into the mid to low 20s again, close off that air circulation, but reopen when temps rise above freezing. I'm not sure if it'll work, but it sounds like a plan to me. Basically, after you cut and spray, keep it warm and dry. If the palm is already almost dead, what have you got to lose?
    Good luck

  • 19 years ago

    Well I'm quite sure that the Robusta is a gonner. I started removing the old boots. There were ice crystals under all of them. I'll cut it down tomorrow and see. They have updated the forcast to sunny and 70. I'll be working outdoors all day I may have to celebrate with some of my world famouse rum punch. 70 and sun is shorts and no shirt weather around here this time of year. Thank you both for the insight. I'll update you tomorrow. 70 and sun YAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 19 years ago

    Thus past winter was noted for the intensity of the cold- from mid January till early March. It was just brutal here in southern New England. The absolute low was only about 0- but the way the cold hung on was very depressing at times.

    My two palms continue to soak up the warming sun. I am still amazed at the Fortunei- that looks no different then last fall. The Waggie is a bit ratty, but the spear leaves still intact (the one opening, and a new one lower.

    These palms however are clearly experimental here- with the Sabal McCurtain and Needle palm more likely to survive long term. If climate change happens as predicted- by about 2030 Trachies here may be able to live long term.

    As for your Washies- if they are 'mush' it might be wise to wait a fair amount of time- but do not expect much.

  • 19 years ago

    Good luck andy. I suspect you may have a couple fatalities from the cold. When the palms get beat up by the cold it does slow down their recovery process and from what I've read the damage is cumulative (sp?) and next year you should over protect these damaged palms to give them a fighting chance to survive one more winter.

  • 19 years ago

    Andy.....I thought you were going to wrap all that stuff up for winter. Why on earth would you chance it? To much work goes into my palms for me to take a chance. Wrap those babies up and keep them warm.

    I am getting ready to take mine out of the greenhouse just as soon as I know I am free from low 30's. Ole mother nature likes to slip a cold night on us every now and then during March and April. I think it was 80 today.

  • 19 years ago

    Andy i am sorry but i feel your pain
    I lost a 2 gallon manambe palm a banana tree
    2 blonde flamethrower tree a queen and the wind got my bamboo the other day so as i said i know your pain !
    CARLESSNESS WILL COST US HUH ?

  • 19 years ago

    I did have the Trachy wrapped up with lights. The Robusta also. I knew that one was a crap shoot. I had the needles covered but not heated. Two strait nights of -5 and almost a week where it never hit 10 must have done them in. The Trachy shows no sign of a mushy top so I think it will recover.

  • 19 years ago

    Topher....how in hell did you loose all that? You do know its still winter, even if its 80 degrees outside...ROFL

  • 19 years ago

    Orchiddude

    Lots of work and no time !
    Dark when i get off work in evening time in the wintertime
    no timeto cover anything..
    but in my defense the flamethrowers rotted off and they were inside as did the queen.

  • 19 years ago

    I got good news, my cuban palm that has sat for a year doing nothing has finally got up off its ass and grown a new leaf. I think it will make it now. I am excited. Finally, I will have a cuban palm!

  • 19 years ago

    Orchiddude-
    Do you mean a Cuban Royal Palm?

  • 19 years ago

    andy

    yes, cuban royal palm....back last summer I bought a 1 1/2 foot tall plant, after potting it up, making sure I did not touch or break, mash or hurt the roots, the darn thing just sat there. I had 2 pretty green leaves. Well now after about 9 months, it has finally grown a new leaf. I am hoping with the summer coming, I can get 2 or 3 more new leaves. I am not sure how fast they grow. I am excited.

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