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Plant with problems: please help

16 years ago

I bought some Bhut Jolokia seeds back in October and I wanted to see if they were viable before purchasing more for next summer from the same seller. I've been growing one for a few months now but I've run into some snags. First, I didn't want to abandon it when the temps outside began to drop so moved it to the covered balcony I have which basically acts like a greenhouse. I noticed at that time, some fungus gnats had taken up residence in the pot. I just squished the adults at first and it seemed to help but every day more adults showed up. I presume the gnats were attracted by a fertilizer which I concocted (decomposing proteins) so I flushed the soil with about 3 gallons of water every day for about a week. That seemed to help for about a week but then I started seeing the gnats again. I was finally able to find some real fertilizer but I'm unsure of the dosage because some dude was just selling bagfulls out of a huge barrel (I live in Korea: no miracle gro). He said it's for outside and I should only use a little so I got out a tablespoon and measured it level then sprinkled the little grey pellets around the top of the soil. At that time it bagan to snow outside and I feared the temp on the balcony would get too low so I brought the plant into my computer room. About this time the parts for an LED grow light, which I read others had been successful using for dubious purposes, had arrived and I had finished constructing it. I placed the light about 1.5 feet above the top of the pot. My wife complained about the red light shining out the street window of our apartment so I got a box and lined the inside with foil and set the light on a hole in the top and placed the box over the plant. While arranging everything though, I accidentally broke the top of the plant. Over the next couple weeks the large leaves began to yellow and eventually dropped off but the new leaves seemed green enough. I still noticed the gnats and I read the larva will attack the roots so I figured that was the reason for the yellow leaves. After some more reading, I purchased some whitefly traps and some mosquito dunks (I read the dunks will work against the larva of fungus gnats) and have not seen the gnats since. You can see the portion of the dunk at the base of the stem. I noticed the newer leaves weren't staying green and none of them were flattening out. I was worried about overwatering and attracting the gnats again so I think I wasn't giving it enough because recently I began watering it more and it's grown more. Then a week or so ago I was brushing up on my high school photosynthesis and realized I had been CO2 starving the plant in the closed box. I started leaving the box open to let air in and today I finally hooked up a fan on the side and some holes to push air through.

Anyway... I'm still worried about the curled leaves. Anyone got any ideas on anything else I'm doing wrong?

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Comments (11)

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I forgot to mention: my wife was looking over my shoulder when I was setting everything back up with the fan and she asked what the dunk was. When I moved it I noticed a couple centepedes and a root. I wasn't concerned about the centipedes at first but as I poked around the soil to check for more roots I noticed maybe 6 or 8 little ones maybe 1/4 inch long crawling around. The roots seem healthy though - they look strong and go all the way out to the edge of the pot. Should I be worried about the centepedes?

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    It looks like either overfeeding or Ph problems in the soil.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Search water movement and read the thread by talpa that specifically talks about soils. Looks to me like you haven't been reading the correct information on container gardening. You will have a tough time growing in an organic medium with a fertilizer you know nothing about.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    After some reading elsewhere, I'm guessing too much fertilizer and it seems someone agrees so I'll be flushing the soil in a few hours. :P

    p.s.
    badsmerf,
    You really should wait to reply until after you have read the entire post. Otherwise, you might appear to be a duche.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Let the soil dry out between waterings and the plants should be alright. This will also take care of any gnat problems.

    Alan

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    thepaan,

    Like I said, search water movement and read the thread(s). The problem is not your plant, but rather the environment you've put it in. You can continue to attempt to fix problems as the come up or prevent them completely by changing your soil and approach. Your choice.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    badsmerf,

    I asked: "...anything else I'm doing wrong?"

    You answered: Looks like you don't know enough about gardening to be gardening. and then You did something wrong.

    Like I said, read the post before replying. I know it's semi-long but the problem is; either you know of a place in Korea where I can find the component's of Al's 5:1:1 and some 3:1:2 fertilizer or, you are just a duche. I mean a really big duche. The reeeeaaaaally ginormous kind. You come off as a worthless meat-bag posting completely irrelevant information with that condescending verbiage. It could be you are suggesting that I abandon indoor gardening altogether but then we are right back to you being a duche. You could continue to worsen your duche status by continuing your attempt to induct me into the Cult of Al, or you could prevent it altogether by changing your attitude and approach then answering the question constructively. Or, you could have said nothing. Your choice.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    How old are you, anyway?

    You came to this forum seeking advice, but when people try to help you then you don't listen. If you're going to flair up at the people you came to for help then I suggest that you go somewhere else.

    Alan

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    The reason I told you to read that is because it gives a lot of information about container gardening that you don't come across everyday. Seriously, the name-calling is a little out of line I think. If your goal is to keep a pepper plant alive for a few years the soil and feeding program is going to be the most important parts to get right from the beginning. There are some ways you can improve whatever soil you are trying to grow in if you can't make a mix of your own. Screening regular potting mix with a bug screen makes a world of difference. Then you can add some supplemental things to approach the 5:1:1 mix. It doesn't have to be perfect, but some little things make a world of difference. Something people talk a lot about is a perched water table, meaning, in regular potting soil water will actually pool and not drain out. Roots grown in this environment tend to rot, especially plants that prefer well drained soil. Decreasing the amount of fines in the soil decreases this level. The fertilizer you use is important too because you're basically trying to supply all the nutrients the plant will need without the natural minerals and microorganisms that are in the soil. If you can't find something that you know the ratios for at least, is it possible to order online?

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    badsmerf,

    You are much more gracious than I.

    Bill

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Inappropriate and Unacceptable!..

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