Andrea- Plumerias have a large number of genes which means you can have quite a variety in the plant. I do not believe anyone can tell you the percentages for cross pollination vs self pollination because the parts are so small that i feel self pollination has a far greater odds. I raised 50 from a pod on a Cindy Moragne (White) and most were some form of white but some had floppy petals, some had blush, some had pink, etc. Then there were 2 orange brown, one red cup and a yellow,pink,white. The bigger problem is that some will bloom in 2-3 years, some longer and some much longer. I still have 2 very large ones (ten years old) that have yet to flower. If your parent plant was a red, pink, or multi, or a Moragne, you have a chance of something new. Yellows and whites seem to produce mostly yellows and whites. If you look at the Moragnes you will see the best of 282 seedlings from the first successful cross between a bright red and a large pink/white. I have had many pods but I do not know how they were pollinated (moths, small insects, rain, wind, butterflies, etc.). You just wait and watch. Bill

I had read somewhere that Bill Moragne had one plant that took something like 20 years before it bloomed.

Wow Bill. 10 years and still waiting. I really hope it is something awesome for you when it does bloom. I think we all agree that if anyone deserves a unique and special plant its you.

Maybe this is the year!

Mike

Disneyhorse, Welcome to the patient world of seedlings. I cannot believe that I am going to do 2 seed pods again when they open up off of 2 really great cuttings I brought from Maui and Oahu the past few years. You end up carrying them around like babies, atleast I did thru a huge remodel we did in '05. 25 were great trees and bloomed EVENTUALLY! Of those, 3 were the darkest red I have seen locally and the trunks look like baseball bats. I am not super sure, but the parent of the seed pod on my 1st set was Loretta...not the best of bloom or quality. I have given many of the "bland ones" to neighbors. It will be these next 2 pods that I am excited to try. Both cuttings bloom lei quality like crazy and 1 has an info on each tip and is only 2 years from leaving the island to the mainland... :-) roxanne

I have a 5` multi-tipped that is at least 8 years old that I am still waiting to bloom. It has no excuse. A friend grew them from seeds she brought back from Thailand. She has since moved and lost touch so I can`t find out if hers ever bloomed.
Tally HO!

Well, I will try to be patient then... For some reason all of the "no ID" seeds I got from Fuzzy in HI sprouted and are growing the fastest. My JL Pink Pansy are the second vigorous with very long oblong leaves. Waimea are third vigorous with rounder leaves, and Penang Peach are the slowest to germinate with the least success rate. Very interesting! I'm starting to feel a little overrun with these little guys, especially since they seem to be needing their own one gallon pots...
I'm looking forward to seeing how fast they grow. I hope they're attractive enough to give as Christmas presents to the family, since I don't need forty little trees...