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a defense against LY

20 years ago

IIRC, the leafhopper infects a palm with LY by visiting the flowers. ie, in LY terms, the leafhopper is effectively a flowerhopper.

Since those of us growing palms for ornamental rather than production purposes, we don't care about the coconuts. Nor do we have 100s or 1000s of coconut palms to maintain.

If the flowers are cut off as soon as they appear, perhaps this is way to reduce LY infection, while speeding up plant growth?

Comments (20)

  • 20 years ago

    Thats an idea, when the day comes for my coco to fruit. I will remember this right after I take pictures of a fruiting coconut grown in a pot. Thats my long term goal.

  • 20 years ago

    "fruiting coconut grown in a pot."

    I think you're going to need an awfully large pot, like a 50-gal drum. :)

  • 20 years ago

    I have one inside my screened in pool area in a pot that's doing great...the one in a pot outside is very yellow in color. It's either the dreaded LY or it needs a good dose of fert...Z

  • 20 years ago

    Z...dont hold back, grab that camera and show us some pictures. This is like cat-nip to a cat....you making us go crazy. LOL

  • 20 years ago

    Ya jetstreem let's see some pictures. I'm jeoulus of each succesive zone. My coconuts spend 7/12 of their lives indoors. You probably need to just bring them in 2-3 months. I'm resisting the urge to bring mine in. It's cloudy and 67 out right now. It looks like a possible reboung in a week- 10 days. Sunny and mid 70s.

  • 20 years ago

    "I have one inside my screened in pool area in a pot that's doing great...the one in a pot outside is very yellow in color. It's either the dreaded LY or it needs a good dose of fert...Z"

    Either that or its a Golden Malayan!

  • 20 years ago

    Yellow and Golden Malayans look fantastic with regular fertilizer. Leaves become a good green with yellow/gold stems, and not anemic as they typically look in unadulterated Florida sand & limestone.

    What's the source of the theory regarding removal to flowers to detract LY carrying leafhoppers?

  • 20 years ago

    "source of the theory"

    I can't find it now, but the insects are attracted to the flowers, IIRC.

    No coconut flowers => no insects => no LY infection.

    This isn't of course fool-proof, but it might help.

    A solution is some kind of breeding/hybridizing or DNA manipulation of the palms to make them resistanct to LY, but IIRC, there simply aren't any funds for that kind of research.

    As well as cutting the flowers, residential/ornamental owners could also spring for the $$anti-biotic to inoculate their palms. It's not extremely expensive, but for plantation owners with 1000s of palms and with coconuts selling for under $1 at the plantation gate, the cost of the inoculation is hard to offset with such low prices for the nuts.

  • 20 years ago

    I guess mine is a Yellow or Gold Malayan...

    ...I gave it a good dose of fert, so hopefully the leaves will green up a little...Z

  • 20 years ago

    Could be that's exactly how it's supposed to look. It lloks good to me. Can you post a picture of the other one you mentioned?

  • 20 years ago

    Lookin good, show that pot with it too.

  • 20 years ago

    Then you'll know what a baby it really is...:>)...

    ...a new leaf

    ...and the rest

    ...the yellows in a 10 gal pot...the greens in maybe a 20, with a 6 in trunk...Z

  • 20 years ago

    There ya go....good job.... :-)

  • 20 years ago

    "I guess mine is a Yellow or Gold Malayan... "

    Looks like it to me! I have four of them in 25 gallon pots (two doubles) and they look identical to yours.

    As to what I will eventually do with them.....I guess Ill figure that out in about a year or two when they are too big for these pots. Goldens are awful tender to plant out around here.

  • 20 years ago

    I got a question maybe one of the Florida residents can answer for me.

    Why do yall put screens on your pools? I see this in Florida all the time, but no where else in the south.

  • 20 years ago

    Looking good. That golden looks really cool. Please anyone correct me if I'm wrong don't the goldens have "tall characteristics" and are there not also red dwarfs. Does the red only refer to the color of the nuts or do the leaves and branches have a red tint to them as well.

  • 20 years ago

    Regarding pool screens - I don't know the official reason, but virtually all residential pools have them in south & (I think) central Fla. They keep out bugs and larger varmints, leaf litter, slow water evaporation, and keep the water cooler. I think water conservation is the most likely reason.

  • 20 years ago

    The building code laws of florida...have to have your pool either fenced or caged and the handle on the door has to be 5 feet from floor height. This supposedly protects the kiddies from getting in over their heads...so to speak. It will keep your water 5 to 10 deg's cooler, so you have to heat it to keep it up in the 80's or higher...lest you want to freeze...:>)...Z

  • 20 years ago

    I wondered, cause here in AL all you have to do is fence it, ones in the country dont even do that. I just wondered, I thought it was for the bugs or flys or something like that.

    I remember once while in FL, some type of fly that kept bitting me. Thank god, we dont have them around here, they hurt.

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