I just ordered some pindo palm seeds that came with ten free sabal seeds off of ebay, so I get some pindo seeds, but sabal seeds even if they don't grow fast.

So thanks anyways, even though no one responded yet hahaha.

Chad, maybe people are put off by your zone ;-).

What about trying some phoenix sp? good old CIDP or maybe even theophrastii? These are easy to germinate and don't mind coming in for the winter either (i've done it for years with smaller ones)

Butia(pindo) definately worth a go but can be fairly tricky if seeds are not fresh.

What about trying the toughest (cold hardy) of all pinnate IMO and germinating some Jubaea chinensis, ok they are fairly slow but if your in for the long haul definately worth a pop. I germinated some in jan 05 and this summer they have produced their first adult leaves, so not so bad.

Also there are other trachycarpus sp that are worth trying, wagnerianus being top of the list in almost every department. There is also a strong rumour that true takil seeds will be available in the not too distant future, these should also be worth trying.