thought it might be queen elizabeth but now ............

19 years ago

I thought this might be Queen Elizabeth but now am not so sure.

Has an upright stiffish habit. Picture is from early spring during pruning.

These are the leaves.

Now the bud.

Early bloom.

A few hours later although different bloom.

Profile of bloom.

The fragrance is probably medium in strength but very nice roseish scent.

There is a small flush of blooms in the spring followed by scattered blooms through the summer and fall. Possibly with more care the blooms would be more prolific.

The bush is 8 to 10 ft tall and looks to get taller if not pruned considerably.

This is a very well armed bush. I call it my Notorious Monster Rose. (from FFIX)

Appreciate your time in helping me name this rose. Thanks!

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kiwi_n_rabbit
19 years ago
Looks like what my mother calls the OLD FASHIONED ROSE....Might not be any help but might get ya pointed in the right direction!
susaninthegarden
Original Author
19 years ago
lol I like the name! It seems to be pretty old. Was here when we moved here 10 years ago and was huge then. We have chopped it to the ground once because it had a huge amount of dead wood in it.
Sooooo any ideas on what this OLD FASHIONED ROSE might be also called?
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susaninthegarden
Original Author
19 years ago
There are several reasons I don't think it is Queen Elizabeth.
One is the stems are very short on the roses. 5 inches maybe at most.
Another is that the rose smells very nice with an old rose scent and has a good moderate strength.
Pictures I have seen of Queen Elizabeth have no where near the number of thorns this one has. There are tiny thorns
all the way up to the actual bud and no where on the cane can you ever even touch with one finger without running into thorns. There are two types of thorns on this bush. One is the regular large thorn and then all the little quarter inch thorns. Major ouchies both.
Another thing about the leaves. The leaves have a definate soft grey tinge. Very elegant. Oddly I have never noticed this color before.
hoovb zone 9 sunset 23
19 years ago
Waaaaaaay too thorny for QE. Looks antique by the form--if you can get a good shot of another flower, try asking at the Antique Rose forum.
susaninthegarden
Original Author
19 years ago
Thanks to a suggestion by Patriciae in a thorny rose thread I now have an ID for this rose!
It is pretty sure to be "Conrad Ferdinand Meyer"!
Thanks so much Patriciae!