The first one is a rose that I took from a friend's house last year. I cannot describe the growth because there are not many leaves on it, but it does have about 20-25 petals. It is about 2-3 feet tall right now.

The second rose was purchased from a local home nursery. She was calling it "Not Erfurt" because she ordered Erfurt and received this rose. Do you think it is Erfurt? It is about 3-4 feet tall right now and it blooms with a big bunch all together as you can see from the pictures. Any help would be appreciated. Neither rose has very much scent.