Unknown rose from ARE

19 years ago

I purchased an Etoile de Lyon from ARE last fall and I am sure that this rose is not EdL. I confirmed my suspicions when bought one from Vintage (to replace the mislabeled one from ARE) and the Vintage version is definitely different. I received no help from ARE with this problem, needless to say I will not purchase from them again. Anyway, can anyone 'name this rose?' This is a picture of the foliage:

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This is the flower:

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The bush is full of PM, where the EdL from Vintage is not. Thanks in advance for any help.

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cayene
19 years ago
Wish I could help you with the I.D. on this one as I am in the same boat as you. I have two so called EdL's from ARE and they definitely are not the same rose that Vintage sells as EdL (which I have also). I called ARE earlier this year about their EdL and was told that they would check to see if their stock was "contaminated" which I guess means "misnamed" but they never got back with me.
btw, the rose that Vintage sells as EdL is the same as Bermuda's Anna Olivier.
jbfoodie
Original Author
19 years ago
Cayenne--this is the same rose I was wondering about in an earlier thread, but I did not have a picture then. I am pretty certain that it is Blumenschmidt based on the pictures and descriptions I have gathered from various websites. I do not know if you recall, but I had the same experience as you did with ARE getting back to me. I also have a thread going on the Antique Rose Forum, which I posted the same time as this one and it received many responses. I think from now on I will post mystery roses there as they seem to get more attention. thanks for the tip--Anna O--and thanks for responding!!
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cayene
19 years ago
I have Blumenschmidt and the ARE version of EdL is not the same rose. ARE's version of EdL is unlike any of other 80 plus teas I have in my garden.
jbfoodie
Original Author
19 years ago
I am including the link to the Vintage website, which depicts Blumenschmidt in all its blooming phases--bud, newly opened and aged bloom. My rose looks exactly like this picture. Also, in the Vintage Gardens Rose book it states that B is prone to mildew in coastal climates. My rose has mildew that won't quit. What does your B look like? Do you have any pictures you can post? I would love to see it. If my rose is not B, then I have exhausted all the possiblilities so far.

Here is a link that might be useful: Blumenschmidt at Vintage Website
jbfoodie
Original Author
19 years ago
Cayenne--do you have any pictures of your Blumenschmidt that you can post here? I would very much like to see it. I have the Vintage EdL now and it is nothing like my mystery rose. I love my Vintage version.
soff
19 years ago
did you look at homere or mme de wateville?
My mme does ball a lot, but it commes from p beales and the picture look the same to me
Homere is that kind of rose too, mine didn't flower, jut a cutting!