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It's not the best site in the world. I need to find a better one.

Westelle, that first one looks like a Phlomis to me, but others will confirm, just as they'll help with the 2nd one; all I know is it's big and beautiful! :)

Sounds like a fun trip!

Brenda

Thanks, Brenda. The first 2 pictures, I'm pretty sure, are Phlomis purpurea.

I've looked thru so many photos of Salvias and still haven't found just exactly the right one. I think it is probably a gesneraeflora. However, the calyxes are pale yellow-green, which doesn't seem to fit any I've seen in photos. The "guys" at the farm said it was "Picanté" ???? but I can't find that at all. S.g. "Tequila" has very dark calyxes, but is one that can get this tall. The S.g. mountian form is closer, but still has darkish calyxes.

This Salvia has to be quite old because the base is so huge, so this isn't some new cultivar. Rich?

The first is a Phlomis (probably mediterranean).

The foliage and habit of the second indicate either the Mt Emory or Hidalgo form of Salvia regla. I'd have to see a closeup of the foliage to determine which. The Jame form would be more arboreal, unless it had been repeatedly pruned to make it bushy.

If it had been there for a really long time, perhaps it was started as seed collected by Sally & Tim Walker of Southwest Native Seeds. They have collected in west Texas in the past.

Thank you, Rich.... and, Robin, for the photo. I agree that it might be S. regla "Hidalgo". It definitely isn't "Emory" or Jame.

The flowers are quite red, and the foliage is yellowish green, not shiny at all, a bit leathery and had a slight scent of pine.