Hello Russ1023,
Believe it or not the fruit is only beginning to color slightly on top and feels solid still. I will follow your direction on planting when the time comes. My old flat spear sans is blooming for the third time. Wonder if it will have fruit for the first time?

If you post a pic of your flat spear, maybe we can identify it. Keep us posted on the seed. Russ

Hi, Finally found this thread after the GW/Houzz fusing. I pulled off the fruit and washed off the flesh. Now have a beige peanut shaped thing. Is this the seed or is the seed inside this pod?

The 'peanut' is the seed. Plant it just under the medium, definitely no deeper than the width of the seed. It can take several weeks for it to germinate, possibly longer. This is a pretty cool process and I never get tired of seeing the germination and growth, quite the little miracle. Post your progress.

Russ, central Fla

Wow, In all my years of growing Sansevieria I've never gotten seed. Indoors this is to be expected. But I first started growing Sans in South West Florida in the yard. I never remember anything about seeds. But, I never looked either, LOL! Any pictures available?
Fred

I think you would have noticed flowering and seeds. Clusters of small, white flowers would have been on tall stalks, followed by green, then orange, then red fruit with a seed inside each one. The flowers are incredibly fragrant at night, very strong and heady perfume.

I just had a Sans hallii in flower, which is different in that the very short flower stalk emerges from beneath the soil-line. So they're down close to the base of the plant, but same heavy, heady fragrance. Unfortunately no seeds from that flowering, and didn't take pics.

If you were growing Sans trifasciata 'Laurentii' in south Fla (tall with green centers and wide yellow margins) it very rarely flowers.

I'll post some pics with next flowering of any of my sans.

Russ

Sans trifasciata 'Laurentii' that and my neighbor had S. trifasciata hahnii.. Back then the most I ever did with them was to hack down the spreading clumps. They get a bit out of hand if you don't. It wasn't till I moved back to PA that I started growing them indoors. My first being divisions from the plants in the back yard in Florida. I do remember cutting off a bunch of leaves, getting interrupted and not picking them up for a week. In the shade, heat and humidity of Florida's summer they had already started putting out roots! Back on topic: no I don't recall the flowers nor any seeds, but those clump were dense and tough. The sans in full sun were always kind of washed out and yellowish, but the ones on the north side of the building were lush green. Sorry, I'm rambling you triggered a memory LOL! Fred

Sometimes it's good to reminisce and think about those 'good ol' days'. Hahnii is another one that almost never blooms, I don't think I've ever seen one in decades of growing sans.

If you want to try some different species and hybrids, I can send for postage.

Russ

Fred, did you ever get any seeds? Or whatever it is that's being offered here? I'd like to see if they've made any progress, it's been over a month. Lol

I had 3 seeds of S. 'Chahinian 549' a couple of weeks ago. Might not have germinated yet, if you want them I'll have to find them in my shadehouse. My 'for postage' offer was for plants of sansevierias from my collection, which numbers over 100 species, varieties and hybrids. The offer goes for anyone who asks, I have quite a few propagations that I don't need.

Russ, central Fla

Russ,

How are you for growing the tuff ones like S. t. Forescate? I have a nice one with lots of leaves but will not pup. Even our hot summers (not this year) it never pups. I am afraid I will end up loosing this one.

Stush

laticauda,
No, I haven't gotten anything as of yet. But I do have a new Sans and if you want to see it have a thread from a few days ago on Sansevieria forum.

http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/3204913/any-idea-what-my-name-is?n=2

Russ,

I wouldn't want to impose on anyone (but since you've offered, would it not be rude to decline?). I wish to humbly accept your offer.

Is there a way to do a private message on here? (Forgive me, I'm right on the cusp of this technology thing....I remember DOS...so touchy screens......I'll just leave it at that as I'm not supposed to be complaining...even about technology.)

So I got curious and looked up this "forescate" and I think that may be the one I had back in the day. I just assumed it was all green cos I've only ever seen tall green ones, that I can recall recently.

Fred, your new sans is trifasciata 'Futura Simplex'. It's similar to the old 'Futura' but has much wider variegated edges and in my opinion a thicker, stiffer leaf. Leaf cuttings will produce the same plant but without the yellow edge. The name of that sans would be 'Robusta', which would propagate true from it's leaf cuttings.

Russ

laticauda, you can reach me at bluesea14808@yahoo.com. I've had Forescate before and lost it, I found it one of the picky ones but others seem to grow it without problems.

Later, Russ

Hey Stush, didn't see your post above until just now. As I said, 'Forescate' was a loss but that was many years ago. Odd that it won't offset, but it probably will eventually. I think watering is the biggest challenge on these highly variegated sans, especially in the winter. One wrong move at that time and they're mush. Sound like you're doing well with this one right now though, so maybe it'll pup before winter.

I picked up two 6 inch pots full of Golden Hahnii yesterday at an Ace Hardware store. 5 plants in one and 6 or 7 in the other, $4.99 each. Such a deal. I'll probably lose them during the winter but they were too beautiful to pass up for the price. I think you said you lost some plants, is it one that you need??

Good to 'see you' Stush, all the best.

Russ

Russ,
Oh my, at the hardware store! $5 for a 6" pot, incredible. Amazing the ifferences between areas in the country!
Thanks for the information on my "starlight" By the way, I have some new photo's of my Red Aglaonema, I have NOT posted them yet as I want to fill the camera before I download, so soon.
Fred

Those look great, stush!

Here are some of the Golden Hahnii's from Ace Hardware on Merritt Island Fla. Seem to be typical but they're always pretty. Stush, that higher-colored one is outstanding. It looks much bigger than your usual Golden Hahnii, I think Lucille Polen is a bigger clone so you could be right about that ID.

Russ

3 separated out from the pot of 5

8 in this pot, haven't separated yet. Pulled most of the grass that was also in the pot, still a few remaining.

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Fred, are pics of two of my Futura Simplex's, are these similar to yours?? The variegated edge on Futura is much more narrow.

I'll get the camera out again, so stay tuned.

that white bar is a ruler, so much for that idea.

Russ,

What are they feeding them who sold them to Ace Hardware? Looks great. Wow. Can you ask them where or who they deal with? Check the soil they are using. Don't mess with a winning hand.

Stush

Stush, I did check the soil they're in, and it's not what I would consider a good mix. I don't see much in the way of amendments for drainage, looks mostly like that water-retaining bog-peat stuff, heavier than the 'good peat' such as Canadian peat. I would not put a sans in the stuff, but there you go!! I'll see if a photo can show you anything. I put the five I separated from the one pot into a half and half mix of Fafard 52 mix and coarse perlite, very well draining with decent moisture retention. That will probably kill them!!!

I'll ask about their sans source next time I see them, they're 70 miles away.

Russ

Fred, I do think your bigger sans is Futura Simplex, thanks for the size-comparison pic. Unless they grow to Futura-size plants, the pot of three are probably Hahnii Marginated, which is nature's smaller version of Futura Simplex. The larger version of these two, of course would be trifasciata Laurentii. Almost every variegation type has it's examples in all three plant sizes, Hahnii-size, Futura-size and full-size trifasciata types.

Russ

Russ,

That's exactly what I mean. With this mix, you must watch watering but maybe they got some thing there? I don't think it's peat but some forest compost product. I was thinking of planting my hahnii sans in a two layer soil. Bottom half all fine stone, top half this compost stuff. Roots will have what ever it is they want. What do you think.

Stush

Stush I don't mean to interrupt, but I'm not sure that is a good idea. If you do try it please do so experimentally on just a couple. I made the mistake of mixing sand into my cactus mix and that helped kill my Golden Hahnii. When I depotted it to try to save it I discovered how damp the soil at the bottom was. The bottom half fine stone sounds too close to the "drainage" layer that used to be recommend on potted plants. Fred

Haven't seen a stush around. Wonder how he's doing?

I'm still here. always looking and if need, I put my 2 cents in. Mostly you guys got it covered. Some questions I don't know how to answer.

I just purchased some granite stone mix used for poultry grit feed. Seems to be the best sum I could come up with for palmice.

Can you turn on your messages?

The picture is just to cheer you up...sorry about the prayer carpet in the background, I thought I moved it for the picture!

After trimming all the brown around the bottom/tips, I measured the middle leaf and it is 32 inches without straightening the leaf flat.

Tell us more about your huge anthurium!

I have a thread, but no one is talking to me over there lol.

I definitely didn't grow this from seed, I'd love to know how old it probably is.

what! no one is talking to you over there?

Barb found me over there lol. I'm really hoping for some good advice. The best I think I've come up with is to just add like 3 or 4 inches of mulch around the base to encourage root growth with the increased humidity and oxygen to the base area of the...stem?/trunk? I don't know the proper labels for these things.

Then I'm going to look for some reBar and figure out a way to wrap sphagnum moss and that coco mat stuff to create my own tree for this guy to cling to! I think chopping it up (my first instinct) would set it back as far as maturity goes, so maybe I'll hold off on that. We'll see how winter goes (I'm a little scared lol its DRY here).

Russ,

Did you ever find 3 seeds of S. 'Chahinian 549 to give us an update?

Never did, but that doesn't mean they're not out there. So many sans! And so much else to do, unfortunately. I'll make a note to look again, I know generally where they should be. Thanks for the reminder.

Hi folks, long time no post. Well I planted my S. cylindrica seed in bagged potting soil mix on June 16 according to general directions learned here. I haven't seen anything yet. Is it all over for this go around? I'm crazy-busy right now anyway but would have loved to have it happen.

Are they heated? Do they need light to germinate?

Sometimes flies lay their eggs in the soil and the larvae eat seeds (happened with some of my peppers and tomatoes this year).

Can you poke around in there and see what's going on? (Most people would probably advise against this, but I can't help it, I need to know if I'm just watching a pot of dirt.

Did you add anything else to the MG? I always had mould problems with the MG potting stuff. Especially when germinating seeds. I thought I was just bad at it. But the problem wasn't me afterall.

I'm wondering if putting them in a bag is the right thing to do. I've never bagged sans seeds, or aglaonema seeds for that matter. I am in Florida with higher humidity, but I would be concerned about rotting the seeds with too much moisture in a bag.

Obviously you've heard about using a bag here, and it may be correct for folks in some states. But it's not something I have done and considering most sans are of African origin, it doesn't make sense to me.

Russ

Are sansevieria seeds hard to obtain? Like....if your plant flowers, is it easy to get seeds?

Maybe I'm asking a question that's already been talked about in this thread......

It's late.

After a flowering, it's common for me to get some seeds. Sometimes 3 or 4, but I've had many more than that on a single stalk. Haven't had that many flowerings this year, so very few seeds.

How are your Chahinian seeds doing? Did they get eaten by those evil seed eating fly larvae?

I have grown many seeds from different plants. They all like bottom heat, moisture, fungus free soil. Sans can take ph levels down to 5.5 ph scale. Using a little sulfur in the soil mix will keep fungus from forming. I microwave my soil before starting seeds. I use a take home container as a mini greenhouse. You can also crack the top open just a little to let out too much moisture. Soil has to be just a little damp not wet. After a week, should see signs of a root sprouting out the side of the seed. I was never successful with Sans, but I only had one seed and did my best. I never seen Sans seeds for sale anywhere. There's really no good reason to do so unless you are hybernizing different species.

Mostly just good old human curiosity.

I lost track of where I put the seeds of Sp. Chahinian 549. Which doesn't mean they're not out there in the green jungle. I'll try to remember to keep an eye out for them.

Is everything okay, Russ? Haven't seen you post in a while. Those extra plants must be keeping you extra busy.

Hopefully you can send me a message through the board, my other means of communication is currently having surgery.

Rescuing 2 kittens, took up all of 4 days to figure out how to trap them. I was successful 2 days ago but I lost the smallest one this evening. Anemia probably from severe intestinal worm infection. I don't deal very well with this sort of thing so I'm pretty down about it. So much work and concern and only able to save one, very disappointing.

Hope you get your computer fixed soon.

Russ

Wildlife trappers charge outrageous money. And the animal control people here euthanize many of the cats and dogs they pick up, especially cats since there's so many of them. So I didn't want to call them. I saw a poster at 'the pound' last month where they indicated they had put down over 800 cats and over 200 dogs. I think that was for the month of June, not a total for the year altho I could be wrong.