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A mixing question.

19 years ago

I too am a newbie to the SFG guardening and am creating my raised beds now. Ive got 2 - 4X16X12" beds and 2 - 4X8X12" beds and have decided to use treated lumber to prolong the life of the bins(yes its the new treated stuff - no arsnic and i will line the sides with think black plastic). Ive decided to go with 12" cause im not conviced that the 6" is really enough. But i digress and thats not really my question. Just my not so humble opinion. Ok heres finally my question. I need mix up about 180 square feet of this mix to fill my beds (assuming my math is correct). Ill soon have all the compost/vermiculite/peat to make Mels mix but im looking for a real easy simple way to mix up all this stuff up. I really cant see using the tarp method described in the book. I think it would take way too long. Has anyone tried this or found an easier way to mix this stuff up. I cant see using small rototiller in the bed cause it would injure the weed barrier. I thought about renting a cement mixer (is that nuts?) Im so psyched about this gardening. I was an avid guardener in my youth and so looking forward to getting back into the grove. I love this site. Thanks all in advance for any help.

One other question. I found some really good (dark) topsoil that is in a bag. Any thoughts on using this as one of my 5 different compost ingrediants? My other compost materials so far are composted mushroom soil, cow manure, and this stuff called posey power. I kinda like the idea of the microbes from the topsoil aiding in the composting in the bin. i still need another compost but cant seem to find another.

Comments (3)

  • 19 years ago

    The way I mixed my beds was to take a plastic garbage can and fill it with peat. I dumped it into the bed. Then I filled the same can with vermiculite, then compost. Then I mixed it in place by hand. Didn't take too long and didn't involve any expense or complications.

    The topsoil is not suitable as compost. The purpose of the compost is to attract biology and release nutrients. Top soil is inorganic and won't do either although it will likely increase water retention.

    If you can't find a good, exposed to the elements compost or 5 separate bagged sources then go with what you can find and expect to use fertilizer the first year. Any compost, once exposed to the elements becomes a 'build it and they will come' sort of thing. It becomes 'alive'. Also you can get in the habit of mulching up leaves in the fall as a winter mulch on the beds and then dig them in early spring. Makes great, humusy compost. Kitchen scraps such as coffee grounds can be sprinkled on the beds for nitrogen and eggs shells crushed for calcium.

    The only reason you need 5 sources of compost is for the fertilizer value. If you intend to fertilize it isn't necessary.

  • 19 years ago

    Thanks Justaguy for all your help. One more question? Is there any downside of adding this bagged Topsoil to my Mels mix. It looks pretty rich. I can probably find another use for it, if it will spoil my perfect mix. But if it will help in anyway and do no harm i would like to use it.

  • 19 years ago

    The only sense topsoil will benefit the suggested mix is in water retention.

    Will it do any harm? Unlikely.

    It will be heavier than all the other ingredients, it is unlikely to contain much nutrients no matter how black it looks, but it will likely retain nutrients reasonably well. It will be of very small particle size which means less oxygen to the roots, but if the bed is to be open bottomed it really doesn't matter.

    Use it if you have it, but do try to keep in mind one of the 'secrets' behind the method is a light weight, moisture and nutrient retentive growing medium and soil doesn't meet the first criteria while it does the other 2. Compost, peat and vermiculite meet all 3 criteria.

    The thing to understand is compost is the most important part of Mel's mix. Mel says so in his book. Mel also teaches his method in 3rd world nations and I am rock solid positive he isn't telling desperately poor people who can't afford to buy food to go out and try to buy peat and vermiculite to grow food.

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