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6 inches or 12 inches?

18 years ago

OK, so I realize that Mel says 6" and he's proven it works.

BUT... aesthetically, I just don't like the idea of 6". And I want to plant lots of longer carrots and tomatoes and I just think they need more than 6" in my climate.

Are there any negatives of using his mix 12" deep? Does it still stay loose and friable at that depth? He says to use 6" of sand and 6" of the Mel's mix, but I'm not crazy about that idea either and if I ever wanted to switch those beds over to lasagne it would be a bear to remove it all.

I realize I'm probably too new at this to be bucking the trend, but I just can't imagine that 6" is enough, and since I wanted taller boxes anyway is there any harm (other than the harm to my pocketbook, that is) in using 12"?

Thanks,

kristi

Comments (10)

  • 18 years ago

    No problem at all, aside from the fact that a 4'x4'x1' bed = 16 cubic feet of material, almost 60% of a cubic yard per bed. That being said, I made three of this this way. Well technically they're 4'x4'x11" since a 2"x6" nominal board really only measures 1.5" x 5.5" but who's counting, lol.

    My soil is unsuitable for cultivating anything. it's hard tallbot clay - and only six inches deep. Below that it's lithic bedrock, lol...

  • 18 years ago

    Mel also talks about using "highrise boxes" for longer carrots.

  • 18 years ago

    I just made a bunch of beds and decided to use 2X10's. I figured they are 9.5" deep, and since I'd fill them an inch or so from the top, I'd have 8.5" of good growing soil. Seemed like a reasonable balance.

    Watch the wider boards for warping and cupping. Try to pick the straightest ones you can find; it makes it easier to keep things square when you put them together.

  • 18 years ago

    Since I put a weed barrier (landscape fabric) under my beds, I didn't want to hinder the root crops from growing to their potential so I went 16 inches deep. I'd say go as high as you can afford to go. Sure the wood isn't that expensive, but filling numerous beds 12 inches deep means twice the volume of "dirt" to fill it. In my case, my 130 SF of space took 6.5 cubic yards of Mel's Mix to fill. Boy was that a ton of work (worth every second though).

    Here is a link that might be useful: Sinfonian's garden adventure!

  • 18 years ago

    I built 16 inch boxes because i liked the way that it looked. I filled it with mels mix to the top about 6 weeks ago and it has already dropped almost 3 inches. I guess the weight of the soil and water is packing it down.

  • 18 years ago

    Once the settling is done, compost will also reduce in volume by about half in a year from further decomposition, and the combination is why I usually slightly overfill when topping off with purchased bulk compost.

  • 18 years ago

    The first few boxes that we built were around 7 inches. We then filled the surrounding area with woodchips, so the boxes only stick up around 4-5 inches.

    These three boxes have been plagued by a very oblivious garden pest--my thirty pound beagle, who sees the boxes as a fun alternate pathway through the garden (planted, even with plants 8 inches tall, milk jugs over some of the plants, and an L-shaped 6 foot tall conduit trellis arrangement).

    If for no other reason, I'm happy that the rest of my boxes are 12 inches tall as a dog deterrent.

  • 18 years ago

    I Made a box just for my carrots it's 3" wide x 12" Deep x 6ft. long. I did it to get the carrots up off the ground - away from the slugs & other pests who were chewing them up as soon as they sprouted. Oh and to make sure there were NO rocks to hinder grow. Yes, it works great.

    It was an odd shaped pallet, I wasn't sure what to do with it. So the width is the thickness of a pallet.

    I put 2x4 stakes in the ground to keep it level & from falling over.

  • 18 years ago

    My boxes are exactly 9" tall and that seems to work, even for carrots and corn. I couold easily add another 3" timber, if there was a crop that needed it.

    This is my third house with a sfg, but the first one that I lined the "sides" of the boxes with weedcloth. Seems to keep leaching between timbers.

  • 18 years ago

    I have a 12 inch bed but the mix has settled to about 8-9 inches of actual growing medium. So, that's something to take into account.

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