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Hi, haven't been here in a long time....

18 years ago

It's been years since I've been on GW. It was when I first started gardening, but then I had three children and have been homeschooling the past five years or so. We just moved last summer and so I'm enjoying seeing what flowers are coming up. Dh just marked off about 4 ft x 25 ft or so for a garden. We will not box it in, but will till it up, I have some lovely compost that was already here, just disguised in a big heap. We also have a gully with trees and LOTS of leaves and my FIL gave us a chipper shredder that he no longer needed, so this spring we used it and shredded up all of the leaves. The idea is to eventually get a compost section started. My parents farm and I think this week when I go and see them, I will bring back a few buckets of cow manure.

Ok, so our soon to be tilled section runs mainly north and south along the house and will get sun all afternoon. will it matter where I put the taller things? Can I put them along the back? or should I put them at the north or south end of the garden? I am hoping to do, tomatoes, green beans, cucumbers (I have a big round wire thing that my former neighbor gave me to grown them on) summer squash, at least two plants, maybe three (I originally thought my spot would be about 4x10, but dh made it a lot larger. A few green peppers, green beans and basil.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I figured I'd kind of use the lasagna method and compost around what plants I can and then in between the spaces, do some lasagna gardening to keep out the weeds. Do you think this will work? Is it ok, to not frame in a "square ft garden?"

Kristine

Comments (2)

  • 18 years ago

    You may want to search your local library and used book stores for the "original" (old edition) Square Foot Gardening book. A much thicker book with, I believe, a white cover. Mel goes into all sorts of detail about working with, amending, fertilizing, etc. your native soil. If it's good soil there's not many reasons not to use it, although I sure haven't missed all those weeds. If the soil doesn't look good then the new method, with the raised boxes and "Mel's Mix" will be much better and easier (I used and loved Mel's original book for many years, but when it disappeared in the moving around surrounding my divorce, I ended up getting the new edition and building a new style SFG at my new home, and then at my parents' house. It was MUCH easier.

    It sounds like you are well started with a good supply of compost. If you are going to work "in the ground" I would recommend not just adding compost and other amendments (vermiculite was the best thing I ever did for/to my original in-ground SFG) and mashing them in there, but actually removing some (when I say "some" here think closer to "half" than any smaller number) of the volume of soil and replace it with compost, vermiculite, etc. don't try to "mash it in." The goal is to create a light, friable, soil that is easy to work in and for plants to grow in, not stuff a more dense mixture into the same amount of space.

    That brings me to the second important thing, which is to plan some kind of walkways, of boards, concrete pavers, etc if you want any paths into your beds. As long as there is room to move on both sides of the bed this shouldn't be a problem with a 4 foot width, but if it is going to be right against a wall or fence you will need to plan some way to get to your back squares without walking on the soil. That's the other big thing to the SFG method, never walk on the soil. That way you can work on it regularly, with light tools (trowels, a spade at very most) mixing in fresh compost every time you pull old plants out, and never have use heavy equipment on the soil again.

    Typically the tall plants go along the northern edge of the garden, so that they don't shade the shorter plants.

  • 18 years ago

    Tilling isn't necessary for lasagna layering. In fact, the sod is the first layer. Tilling can also do in a large number of worms. So give it some consideration before tilling. My tiller sits in the barn gathering dust.

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