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Time for some oddballs... (reeeeeeally loooong...)

19 years ago

My very favorite class!! These are the browns, rusts, russets, tans, greys, greens, weirdo mixes, etc. (I LOVE 'em!!)

BELLE EPOQUE

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BLACK TEA

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BROWN STUDY

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BROWN VELVET

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BROWNIE

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BUTTERSCOTCH CLIMBER

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CAFE

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CHIC

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DUSTY ROSE mini

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ESPRESSO

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GREY DAWN

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GREY PEARL

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HONEY DIJON

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HOT CHOCOLATE

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HOT COCOA

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IRISH CREME

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JADE

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JULIA'S ROSE

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KALEIDOSCOPE

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LAVENDER PINOCCHIO

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LEONIDAS

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NIMBUS

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REBECCA SUSAN

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RUSTY

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SHEILA MACQUEEN

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SPICED COFFEE

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SUPER GREEN

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TEDDY BEAR mini

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TERRACOTTA

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TWILIGHT ZONE

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VESPER

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Comments (30)

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Beth your roses are far from being oddballs.
    They are some real beauts.
    And just love there unusual colors.
    Niecey

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    What a funky bunch!!!! The colors are quite a visual shock when presented all together.

    Cheers,
    Michelle

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    You have captured their colors so wonderfully. Thanks for posting them.
    Kathy

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Beth - All your roses are wonderful...I like those oddball colors too. Nice depth of field on Chic

    Mark

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    wow,I love every one of them.Really love that Terracotta,and Kaleidoscope and Irish Cream,and Chic.They don't look like oddballs to me.Very beautiful roses,,except maybe not the green one,Thats the only odd ball in the bunch. Thanks for sharing them.

    Jean

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Nice, my favs are Kaleidoscope, Brownie and Hot Chocolate.
    I really like your group of oddballs.
    Carrie

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Goodness! Thank you for the emotional lift. Belle Epoque has such a beautiful shape and mix of colors. The only one3 of these in our garden is Hot Cocoa. DW really likes it. I may have to move it to a sunnier location, though. Happy New Year!

    Gary

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Twilight Zone is lovely with the ruffled petals. On HMF, Lavender Pinocchio looks like it's petals are ruffled, are they?

    Carla

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Some call them oddballs, I call them stunning! Many of those I have started growing or are on my wishlist. Thanks for giving me some ideas to add. I don't think I'm a green fan but Leonidas was my wedding rose with Rosemary, coffee bean, and chocolate cosmos so I'm a sucker for that one. You must be an accomplished rosarian because I've been told that's only for the experts who can help duplicate the hothouse environment. Your brown study, butterscotch climber, Irish cream, and greys had me jealous and drooling. How are they to grow? How does Stainless Steel compare to those greys? What's the fragrance? I saw butterscotch at the big gardens in Monrovia, CA and have lusted after it ever since. Where'd you get it from? And the others?

    Just beautiful...
    KariLei

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    KariLei, LEONIDAS isn't always that color for me; in fact, that's more a rarity. It's usually fluorescent orange and yellow. BUTTERSCOTCH is the one that started me on my quest for the oddballs. I found it about 14-15 yrs ago at the old "Home Club" store. It was in a 7gal pot, in bloom, and I went nuts when I saw it. HAD to have it!! It's been moved several times; had crown gall removed; almost died once, but it always seems to make it. It grows to about 12-15ft, and the bloom repeat isn't all that great. I'm lucky if I get two full flushes a yr, but I love it nonetheless. It's trailing all over the place at the end of the front porch awning post. I love the weird combination of colors it gets. Tan, beige, mustard, gold, mauve, grey... It has a nice very subtle, sweet, fruity fragrance. Vintage Gardens has (or HAD) it on their availability list a week or so ago. I've seen it available other places occasionally too. Maybe Roses Unlimited? The grey ones are tougher to grow. They're both own-root, GREY DAWN is from Vintage Gardens and still a very small plant even after about 5 yrs. GREY PEARL, I recently got from (if I remember correctly) The Uncommon Rose, and it's doing better faster for some reason. IRISH CREME is one of my favorites, mostly because of the very "brown" colors it often gets. It blooms more often than many of them too. As for STAINLESS STEEL, it does often get some very pale grey-lavender tones. The form on it is much better than the greys. Sorry, I don't remember the fragrances on those. Another really unusual rose is JANET CARNOCHAN. I got her from Hortico several yrs ago, and she's a weird, pale grey-lavender-white. Very pretty blooms.

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Beth as always I enjoyed each and every picture you have posted. You always present such beautiful roses, thanks for all the effort to make such a great show.

    Happy New Year.

    Valerie

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    You sure have a collection of interesting colors. One that I wonder about is Belle Epoque. If you also happen to have Brandy, how close are these in color and form? They do resemble each other from what I have seen in the posted pictures. Also, which one of these in this posting does the best overall in the garden?

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    TB, BELLE EPOQUE is nothing like BRANDY at all. BRANDY is a solid apricot color, and BE is a range of apricots and golds with a pinky-red-to-russet reverse. The petals open up a bit on the ruffly side too.
    Boy, picking the best overall performer out of these is tuff. IRISH CREME is a good one. So is RUSTY. In fact RUSTY blooms almost all the time, and has such unusual partially striped blooms. DUSTY ROSE is another good one. It blooms a lot, and in fact, has a handful of blooms on it as we speak. Love the colors too. And then there's BELLE EPOQUE. It almost doesn't stop blooming. Has some buds and blooms on it now too. Heck, they're all great.

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Beth, I really appreciate you posting pictures of all these roses. Your photography is just wonderful. I don't just mean this posting, but all your recents posts of different colored roses. I wasn't able to comment on all of them, but I am glad you made the effort. They are wonderful.
    Sincerely
    Kathy W.

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Yikes, well the Leonidas of my wedding was definitely not fluorescent orange and yellow. Maybe a bit more shade would help tone down the colors?

    The Uncommon Rose is located in my town of Corvallis. Total side note. I just wish they were open to the public to tour their grounds. I've only been able to peep when I drive to pick up my order. The owner guy, although may sound grumpy or gruff on the phone, was very nice and kind and patient in person. Even let me slip on back and into their greenhouses to get an early view of some things this summer. I only wish I could get more mature plants from them.

    KariLei

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Your photos of Chic always catch my eye and now it's in the oddball group I'm wanting to see it even more in person.

    Is Twilight Zone as gorgeous as its photo?

    KariLei ~~ from an old Corvallis resident - Enjoy the Willamette Vly.! Great rose growing area.

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Iris Gal,

    So far I just love it here. Totally different ball game rose raising though. Any specific tips for the area?

    KariLei

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Irisgal, yes TZ is that gorgeous. Unfortunately tho, my plant died a few months after that pic was taken. I was in a panic to find it again. Ordered from Hortico, they were sold out. So I had to grab an own-root from Vintage Gardens. It won't arrive until March. There is another JB Williams rose that I didn't put in this batch, that is very similar to TZ. I used to think they must be sister seedlings, but they were introduced 20 yrs apart. The earlier one is DOUBLE FEATURE, and it looks much like TZ, only the colors are deeper and it gets some ruby tips, and the blooms are even more ruffled. They are both grandifloras, altho DF doesn't seem to grow as tall as TZ. Mine peaked out above 6ft before it died. DF stays lower (so far) more like 3ft.

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Wonderful Remember Me can also get those oranges and tans in it

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Karilei ~~ no special tips. My job was to haul the horse manure to the garden.

    Thanks Beth for the info. Sorry you lost TZ. We've been down to the 20's at night - every semi-tropical is town is black. But the roses and iris are lookin' good.

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Gorgeous pics! I especially love CHIC. It caught my eye immediately. I've never even heard of it before.
    I've been eyeing a rose with an unusual color call FLORENCE DELATTRE. Does anyone grow it?

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Annabeth, I have FLORENCE, but she hasn't bloomed in like 5 yrs! I don't know what's up with her. I planted her in a bed along the west side of the house, and maybe she gets too much shade.... I dunno? But there are lots of other roses in that bed, mostly teas, and they don't seem to mind the shade. They bloom pretty well. Maybe there aren't much nutrients in her spot or something. I don't recollect ever fertilizing that bed much. There are so many other perennials and bulbs mixed in. Guess I should try and remember to feed those poor babies this spring! Hopefully then I will have some blooms and then some pics to post. If not, I may have to dig her out and move her!!

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I really like the parchment shades like these, especially Irish Creme. I bought one last year and I hope it grows up to be a good growing/blooming rose for me. I also have Julia's Rose and so far it seems kind of runty and slow, which is a big net peeve no-no for me. I like vigorous roses and don't tolerate runts too well.
    John

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    John, unfortunately many of these unusual-colored roses are runts. They are often slow to grow and get established. Not sure why. I know Kim Rupert, the man responsible for getting many of these roses over here to the US, has said that these roses require a lot of care, and you should crop the blooms the first few yrs so the plants can get established better; otherwise they tend to decline. It's sooo hard to do that tho. Ya just wanna see those gorgeous blooms! Anyway, the "oddball" roses are not for the impatient. They do require more time and effort to grow.

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I'm so glad someone bumped this up--I must have missed it.

    Very unusual colors---You sure have a knack wth roses.
    Florence

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Reeeeeally interesting! Hopefully your new 'TWILIGHT ZONE'
    will be back busy producing shortly.

    Thanks!

    F.L.

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Absolutely Beautiful!!!!!!!!

    That was a lot of hard work, thanks for sharing with us :)

    Can you tell me the height that these plants get to in your yard:

    Belle Epoque

    Honey Dijon

    Irish Cre

    Lavender Pinocchio

    I love your pictures of:

    BELLE EPOQUE
    GREY DAWN
    NIMBUS
    TERRACOTTA

    Jeannie

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Thanks, Jeannie. BELLE EPOQUE grows about 5-6ft; HONEY DIJON grows to about 3ft (so far); IRISH CREME about 3ft also; and LAVENDER PINOCCHIO has stayed about 2-2 1/2ft.

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Beth, my Honey Dijon has gotten to 6ft. tall it's first two years in my garden. I is quite vigorous growing and i love the blooms. The color is outstanding and the fragrance is lovely as well.
    John

  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    John, my HD is in a pot. Could be why it hasn't gotten much bigger than 3ft. Hopefully I will have that bed finished and get it in the ground by late spring. I look forward to it getting 6ft tall. That would be great!

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